New Member Saying Hello: Banned From PSA Forums This Morning

[DavidG1966]

Originally Posted by CW

Yes, according to one of the threads that got zapped, this seller is known for having a good eye and submitting cards with minimum grade requirements of 10. Knowing this, I think we have 3 distinct possibilities, 2 of which concern me as a collector who buys graded cards (the final two). I can't say which scenario is the truth, but all 3 are possible...

1. This seller has a top notch eye for condition and has a huge pool of cards from which to select, and only sends in the best of the best.

2. This submitter gets preferential treatment and higher grades than you or I would get for the same cards.

3. The cards being submitted are being cut from a sheet in a way that PSA can't detect or PSA no longer has the expertise or time to detect and reject. The submitter themselves may not be doing the cutting, and may have no knowledge of it.

These are not accusations -- merely discussing the possibilities. That is an amazing submission result, to say the least!

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Let's give Mr. Orlando and his posse the benefit of doubt for discussion sake. I still can't believe we are able to discuss things here! Red Rover Red Rover let the rest of the PSA membership board come over!

Anyway... Just for discussion purposess toss out all the holes and inconstancies in his post that people are talking about here for a minute. In Mr. Orlando's multi purpose post he fails to address option #3 above.

[CW]

3. The cards being submitted are being cut from a sheet in a way that PSA can't detect or PSA no longer has the expertise or time to detect and reject. The submitter themselves may not be doing the cutting, and may have no knowledge of it.

Originally Posted by DavidG1966

Anyway... Just for discussion purposess toss out all the holes and inconstancies in his post that people are talking about here for a minute. In Mr. Orlando's multi purpose post he fails to address option #3 above.

My guess is "Mum's the word" on that topic.

Specific to this option, it will be interesting to see if and when any of the OPC cards come to market. Will we see the typical rough cuts found on cards from this company (especially from early to mid-70s OPC), or will all the edges be smooth?

20813312 1977 O-PEE-CHEE STEVE CARLTON GEM MINT 10
20813313 1979 O-PEE-CHEE JOHNNY BENCH GEM MINT 10
20813316 1980 O-PEE-CHEE RON GUIDRY GEM MINT 10
20813317 1980 O-PEE-CHEE NOLAN RYAN GEM MINT 10
20813447 1971 O-PEE-CHEE RUSS NAGELSON GEM MINT 10
20813448 1971 O-PEE-CHEE BOB ROBERTSON GEM MINT 10
20813482 1974 O-PEE-CHEE GARNET BAILEY GEM MINT 10
20813483 1974 O-PEE-CHEE CRAIG RAMSAY (GRAIG) GEM MINT 10
20813484 1974 O-PEE-CHEE TOM BLADON GEM MINT 10
20813485 1974 O-PEE-CHEE NORM GRATTON GEM MINT 10
20813487 1974 O-PEE-CHEE DWIGHT BIALOWAS GEM MINT 10
20813488 1974 O-PEE-CHEE DON SALESKI GEM MINT 10
20813489 1974 O-PEE-CHEE REY COMEAU GEM MINT 10
20813490 1974 O-PEE-CHEE RON HARRIS GEM MINT 10
20813491 1974 O-PEE-CHEE DETROIT RED WINGS CHECKLIST GEM MINT 10
20813492 1974 O-PEE-CHEE GREG BODDY GEM MINT 10
20813493 1974 O-PEE-CHEE DOUG HORBUL GEM MINT 10
20813494 1974 O-PEE-CHEE LARRY ROBINSON GEM MINT 10
20813495 1974 O-PEE-CHEE BOBBY ROUSSEAU GEM MINT 10
20813496 1974 O-PEE-CHEE NOEL PRICE GEM MINT 10
20813497 1974 O-PEE-CHEE LYLE MOFFAT GEM MINT 10

[Mrvintage]

Here you go........


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-O-PEE-C...item35c33fdfd1

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Mrvintage

Here you go........


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-O-PEE-C...item35c33fdfd1

what does that card book for raw? a nickel?

[CW]

Originally Posted by Mrvintage

Here you go........


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-O-PEE-C...item35c33fdfd1

Not the best scan, but to be fair, left and right edges both look fairly rough. That card actually looks like a solid 10, not sheet cut, all things considered.

[D. Bergin]

As somebody who has never sent in anything for grading, I'm blown away by what some of these "10's" go for.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-CIVIL-W...p2047675.l2557

[mintacular]

#1 we all would love a truly objective way to quantify a cards' condition, etc. yet this cannot exist and psa like any other co. is an imperfect co. to offer such a service

#2 joe sounds very defensive which indicates he is trying to hide something

#3 card grading can allow one to miss the point of collecting in the first place i.e over-emphasizing condition rather than the subject of the card

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by mintacular

#3 card grading can allow one to miss the point of collecting in the first place i.e over-emphasizing condition rather than the subject of the card

amen...

[E93]

If you are selling PSA 10's, get a decent scanner!
JimB

Originally Posted by Mrvintage

Here you go........


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-O-PEE-C...item35c33fdfd1

[Prof_Plum]

Originally Posted by E93

If you are selling PSA 10's, get a decent scanner!
JimB

That would only make sense if you're under the impression that people are buying the card, not the holder. Just think how many more PSA10's you could get graded at the cost of a good scanner.

[frankbmd]

I'm sure the purists on the board crack open all their PSA 10 holders so they can feel the cards.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I'm sure the purists on the board crack open all their PSA 10 holders so they can feel the cards.

I heard all the purists are closet PSA 10 collectors.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by E93

If you are selling PSA 10's, get a decent scanner!
JimB

But it's a PSA 10, so it HAS to be perfect, therefore you don't even NEED a scan...