T206 Printer's Scrap Question

[WillowGrove]

hey t206ers et al -

I've owned the attached t206 Howard since about 1980. SGC says it is re-backed and it is. They also say it is a printer's scrap.

Aside from me being shocked that someone would re-back this card as far back as 1979, I'd really like to finally understand what makes this a scrap and why it would be re-backed?

If a scrap helps with the printing process, who takes the time to take, what I guess would be a blank-backed Howard and put a back on it?

Someone at the printer 100 years ago? A hobbyist who was experimenting? This card came with many others probably from a house auction about 35 years ago.

Any guidance would be really appreciated. thanks a lot guys.

peter

[atx840]

Pete it looks 100% scrap to me, hand cut and missing at least the blue layer. I have seen another one of these but it is a Piedmont back. Im not sure why anyone would reback unless somehow they altered the colours and needed to replace the back as it was damaged.



Nice card

[wazoo]

Is there any way a professional can remove the back without damaging the card?

[mrvster]

you can see it is rebacked!!!!weirdest thing iv seen!

[E93]

It is interesting that the back is off-centered in the same way as the front. I wonder if a printed back sheet was attached at the factory. Is it double-thick compared with regular T206s?
JimB

[mrvster]

it's a gem!

[steve B]

Originally Posted by E93

It is interesting that the back is off-centered in the same way as the front. I wonder if a printed back sheet was attached at the factory. Is it double-thick compared with regular T206s?
JimB

That's what I was wondering.

If it's double thickness maybe there's another card underneath.

I don't see why they'd do this at the factory, unless it was an accident of some kind.

Steve B

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by E93

I wonder if a printed back sheet was attached at the factory.

Del Howard is a print group 2 subject, so the printing of 150 Series backs would have been long concluded before the front was printed.

It seems possible to me that the Del Howard portion of the card was originally blank-back scrap. Regardless, it's a shame someone altered the card.

[atx840]

NICE JOHNNY, as we figured a Piedmont early test run like your others. Congrats!

[atx840]

But that is just, like, your opinion man

100% scrap, handcut & missing most ink layers including the red which we normally find on the typical yellow/brown scraps. This also has a gray/black layer that is slightly offset which has been seen on several clean backed Piedmont scraps. Possibly used to align the first few layers of ink and the Piedmont backs.

Cool card either way Johnny.

[Jlighter]

Does anyone have a Yellow Brown that graded numerically?

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by atx840

But that is just, like, your opinion man

100% scrap, handcut & missing most ink layers including the red which we normally find on the typical yellow/brown scraps. This also has a gray/black layer that is slightly offset which has been seen on several clean backed Piedmont scraps. Possibly used to align the first few layers of ink and the Piedmont backs.

Cool card either way Johnny.

+1 ^^^ all of the above.

Sincerely, Clayton

[mrvster]

Thanks guys!! I was afraid to soak, but hindsight I might have, the front was what I was the most afraid to affect....The front is 1000% scrap, I have many scraps with full printed back....The front is exactly smell, touch, feel, ect...the back is also scrap piedy, just someone decided to paste another card on back, just a sweet cap back for some reason....it is very similar to Pat's Howard, except missing more ink applications...

I agree I shouldve soaked, but I got Too antsy , but the card front and back is a scrapper...just has back damage now,......