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Old 01-10-2013, 10:11 PM
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Meant to post this pic of the 1909 Chattanooga Lookouts from the South Atlantic League. On this PC is Alcock & Meek which are the 2 players that were on the T206 SL Proofs. These guys switched leagues to Southern Association in 1910, and were left out of the T211 eary 1910 release of Series 1 75 subjects. I believe the same 75 T210-8's were released early in 1910 as well, and then sometime later the remaining 39 were released which included 10 Chattanooga players among a sampling from other teams including the 2 NO players, Jackson and Maxwell.
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Ted - Here are a few more large border 8's and their T206 counterpart.
Frank - per your earlier post about the larger border T206-T210-8's, and possible correlation, I don't think we know the how's and why's yet, but 10 of 11 of the identical T206/T210 poses only come with the larger borders. Who knows the reason, but perhaps these were some of the earliest poses to be produced and they were cut with wide borders and then very early on in the series 8 production of the first series (75), they went more narrow with the remaining group of T210-8's. Since the T210's used the T206 poses, it would seem plausible they were the first test subjects, so perhaps the way they cut the card from sheets very early on changed. The Foster card is the lone example of T206 identical poses to have regular borders, so perhaps that card was produced in line with the other regular border T210-8's after they changed the the larger border cards in production. One thing we know for sure is the same players are cut the same way over and over, which is very interesting. This does not change the idea about there being a first series of 75 released early in 1910, then the remaining 39 released a bit later... (Chattanooga / Little Rock is the key - Little Rock was left out of the early release of 1910 T211's, and while Little Rock is absent from the T210-8's, and the only Southern Association team not represented, along comes Chattanooga which appears in the T210-8 set all cut with regular borders, and in far less quantity suggesting they were not released at the same time as the core 75 cards. Keep in mind all large border T210-8's are in that first 75, then the 39 regular border cards follow in less quantity - I think they were simply added along the way, quite possibly due to Chattanooga being the 8th team to join the Southern Association as Little Rock was on the way out and the Lookouts coming into the league. Perhaps a month or two after the early 1910 release of the original 75 cards. The large border cards suggest they were produced at the same time (early release) since you don't see a Hub Perdue for example with large and regular borders. A final point is just the fact I can draw a clear line in availability of the first 75 T210-8's and the final 39 T210-8's. I rarely see the 39, but with a little patience run across the 75... There could be various reasons for this, but since these were distributed regionally, and the timing of Chattanooga joining the league speaks to more T210-8's being released at a different time... perhaps a later date in 1910.
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