OT: No One Elected to the Hall?

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Well, at least I received four votes,.

That's 3 more than Aaron Sele got.

[queencitysportscards]

This article sums it up for me...I agree with Stark.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hof13/story/_...b-hall-fame-be

Hank

[Joe_G.]

The HOF had a contingency plan in place in case of the shutout. I personally like the idea. It will be a fun weekend for this pre-war guy.

"As part of the Induction Weekend ceremony Sunday, July 28, at the Clark Sports Center in Cooperstown, N.Y., in which three Pre-Integration Committee electees – umpire Hank O’Day, New York Yankees owner Jacob Ruppert and 19th-century player Deacon White – will be inducted, the Hall of Fame will recognize 12 individuals previously counted among its roster of members who never had a formal induction due to wartime restrictions. They are BBWAA electees Lou Gehrig (1939) and Rogers Hornsby (1942), along with the entire class of 1945 selected by the Committee on Old Timers: Roger Bresnahan, Dan Brouthers, Fred Clarke, Jimmy Collins, Ed Delahanty, Hugh Duffy, Hughie Jennings, King Kelly, Jim O’Rourke and Wilbert Robinson."

[packs]

Piazza didn't get in because he has always been surrounded with PED speculation. Frank Thomas has never been associated with PEDs and he continues to be one of the criminally overlooked players of all time. The guy was a monster. Back to back MVPs with 3 additional top 3 finishes. He hit 40 homers 5 times, drove in 100 runs 8 years in a row and 11 times in his career.

Absolutely a HOFer.

[h2oya311]

I think the voters thought (wrongly) that if a player has amazing stats like the Big Hurt or mr. Piazza, then it's simply too good to be true, so they must have used steroids!

Ridiculous that Biggio didn't get in. He did get caught drinking and driving once. Perhaps that's why he was snubbed! The ESPN article nailed it.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

I think the voters thought (wrongly) that if a player has amazing stats like the Big Hurt or mr. Piazza, then it's simply too good to be true, so they must have used steroids!

Ridiculous that Biggio didn't get in. He did get caught drinking and driving once. Perhaps that's why he was snubbed! The ESPN article nailed it.

It was the first ballot thing. He'll get in next year. I think Piazza's low numbers were due to first ballot as well. I think he'll get over 70% next year(and possibly get in)

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by packs

Piazza didn't get in because he has always been surrounded with PED speculation. Frank Thomas has never been associated with PEDs and he continues to be one of the criminally overlooked players of all time. The guy was a monster. Back to back MVPs with 3 additional top 3 finishes. He hit 40 homers 5 times, drove in 100 runs 8 years in a row and 11 times in his career.

Absolutely a HOFer.

Not one shred of evidence against either. Speculation can easily be started about most players from their era...how do you draw that imaginary line?

Positionally, Piazza is so much better than Frank Thomas. Piazza is arguably the greatest hitting catcher of all time.

[bcbgcbrcb]

The HOF voters obviously sent a message with Piazza's case, a big guy, why would Thomas not go through the same thing?

[emmygirl]

Originally Posted by queencitysportscards

This article sums it up for me...I agree with Stark.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hof13/story/_...b-hall-fame-be

Hank

Just read Stark's article and have to agree. Hits the problem right on the head. Can't agree more. I want my favorite players in the Hall or if not lets have a place that honors all ballplayers with all their misgivings.