1907-1910 Weiser Wonder - Walter Johnson PC, new to the hobby

[martindl]

I have nothing to add re Leons postcard other than it's awesome. Great pick up.

Yes, 1907 was the 'legal' date for divided postcards, but there are documented examples from 1906, so technically 1907 is not a start date.

Re the 'white bordered' postcard, that pc is a real photo postcard and has nothing to do with white bordered pc's, their history, or dating. There are many examples of real photo postcards with borders that pre-date the 'white border' postcard era.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by martindl

I have nothing to add re Leons postcard other than it's awesome. Great pick up.

Yes, 1907 was the 'legal' date for divided postcards, but there are documented examples from 1906, so technically 1907 is not a start date.

Re the 'white bordered' postcard, that pc is a real photo postcard and has nothing to do with white bordered pc's, their history, or dating. There are many examples of real photo postcards with borders that pre-date the 'white border' postcard era.

It's not a real photo postcard, it's a printed one.

[martindl]

Originally Posted by Bicem

It's not a real photo postcard, it's a printed one.

The "white bordered" one, correct, not Leon's card? It was the former I referenced with my comment.

Based on the back, that card is almost certainly an AZO card, which is why I said it was a real photo.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by martindl

The "white bordered" one, correct, not Leon's card? It was the former I referenced with my comment.

Based on the back, that card is almost certainly an AZO card, which is why I said it was a real photo.

Pretty sure they are BOTH printed-photo postcards and not real-photos ones, unless the sepia one was made from a grainy photo of the original cabinet or the blue printed postcard.

[slidekellyslide]

I also believe the back on that 1918 Weiser Wonder postcard is an AZO back...whoever made those took a photo of a photo.

[Bicem]

Very possible, maybe it was a one-off by somebody just using a photo of a photo. That would also help explain the much later date.

Wish we could see a close-up of the sepia one to be sure.

[Baseball Rarities]

Can you tell that it is an AZO postcard without being able to see the stamp box?

[slidekellyslide]

Yes...I'm 100% certain it's AZO

Here is a random AZO from my collection.

[Baseball Rarities]

It is very blurry. Is it a photo of a photo?

Originally Posted by martindl

Re the 'white bordered' postcard, that pc is a real photo postcard and has nothing to do with white bordered pc's, their history, or dating. There are many examples of real photo postcards with borders that pre-date the 'white border' postcard era.

[slidekellyslide]

Fantastic postcard Leon! And no you can NOT start collecting postcards!

I agree with Hank, I think this card was made in 1910 for distribution from Weiser...probably made in a larger city like Boise. Doubtful that a postcard could keep a guy around..this was made as a source of pride in their hometown boy who had made it big in the Bigs.

[teetwoohsix]

Love that postcard Leon, thanks for posting that.

This has been a great read. The 1910 postmark shows it was made 1910 or prior. Now, I don't have much to add but I do have a postcard that has a copyright date of 1910 by one company in New York, and right across from that has a different publishing company name. The postal stamp on the back of the card is dated August 5th, 1911. It is baseball themed, but more of a novelty item. So, I'm wondering if the date of 1908 would make sense? Maybe one year after the copyright date? Just an uneducated guess.

Great thread and awesome postcard, regardless !!

Sincerely, Clayton

[Hankphenom]

Here's a Net54 thread with a link to a photo of a third purple one owned by Dan McKee (of course). So that's at least three of the purple ones. And Mile High had a sepia example at one of the Reading shows some years back, although that could be the same one in the Legendary auction.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=78805