PSA will authenticate anything

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by toybulldog

I wonder how many "Chico and ther Man" tickets they had to compare this one to in order to come to the conclusion that it is authentic? If they didn't have any then is PSA doing what they say they will do?

Or is it authentic "just because"?

If it makes them money then why not "slab it"?

Mark O,

I would say that is safely a 1/1 slab. I would also suspect that there is certainly no cottage industry of forgers knocking off Chico and the Man tickets to fool unsuspecting collectors out there...

[travrosty]

thats not the point, the point is they say they will do one thing, and we should expect they keep their word. if they dont have another one to compare against, how do they know its the real thing. they are authenticating, not guessing. authenticating means verifying that its real. what did they do to verify it?

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by travrosty

thats not the point, the point is they say they will do one thing, and we should expect they keep their word. if they dont have another one to compare against, how do they know its the real thing. they are authenticating, not guessing. authenticating means verifying that its real. what did they do to verify it?

Travis and Michael,
I definitely get the point. I was merely making light of the rediculousness of slabbing a Chico and the Man ticket. That's why I used the

[Shoeless Moe]

...they authenticated it as Authentic......no grade....maybe it was trimmed?

unfortunately this one does me no good, as I'm in the market for a PSA 5 or better Chico and the Man ticket. I'm gonna put it next to my PSA authenticated Bus Pass.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

...they authenticated it as Authentic......no grade....maybe it was trimmed?

unfortunately this one does me no good, as I'm in the market for a PSA 5 or better Chico and the Man ticket. I'm gonna put it next to my PSA authenticated Bus Pass.

LOL

[sports-rings]

Scott,

sorry I failed to see the humor in your post.

But, hey, if PSA could let a Wagner get through that turned out to be trimmed, is it a big deal if the Chico and The Man ticket was trimmed too?

By the way, has PSA said anything about the Bill Mastro admission that the Wagner card was trimmed and PSA slabbed it with a high grade?

[glynparson]

It's not an autograph. Stick to ripping them on their atrocious job of boxing authentication, whereyou are right. as I think in this case your dead wrong on needing an exemplar to authenticate a ticket or card. You need knowledge of said item yes an exempkar in hand no.

[drc]

I'm not a ticket expert and the idea of potentially faking unique and obscure tickets is a worthy discussion topic, but with many vintage printed or photographic items you don't require an exemplar to determine it's genuine. If you give me a unique 1880s litho trade card or photo, I can usually tell you that it's authentic without another to compare-- in part by taking out the microscope and examining the printing.

[sports-rings]

you don't require an exemplar to determine it's genuine.

Yes, you do require an exemplar. if a fake was made during the time period, using the same paper or card stock, with similar printing equipment, would that make the copy authentic?

Did PSA sit there and examine this ticket with a magnifying glass or loop and then do a paper analysis to determine it was real?

[sports-rings]

I would say that is safely a 1/1 slab. I would also suspect that there is certainly no cottege industry of forgers knocking off Chico and the Man tickets to fool unsuspecting collectors out there...

While I agree with your comment, I don't believe that is the point of the original thread.

I am in the printing business and it would be so easy to create a knock-off in under three minutes, using thick paper and a high-end digital color printer that's designed to print postcards. I could create a near replica in minutes for under 10 cents.

Does PSA had a real ticket to compare? If I submitted my 10 cent replica, would they slab it too?

Is this one more example of many, where PSA takes the money and does no real analysis or not enough analysis? (see the recent PSA boxing thread for additional coverage of this issue).