n172 Old Judge Pretzels "Getzien/Cetzein" Joke Card

[cyseymour]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Joe,

If you look at the Emil Geiss portrait BIN card on ebay it looks like it could say Ceiss from the scan.

Looking at the Geiss scan closely, I can see that at the bottom of the first letter of his name, there is a small point sticking out to make it a G.

Looking at the McCreachery card in the book, the letter C, it really does seem like there is something there that makes it a G instead of a C. This is just conjecture, but I am becoming more and more convinced it is really a G.

I looked up the census records for the name "Greacher" on Ancestry.com, and it turns out there were some people (two or three) with the name of Greacher who were living in the US at that time.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/s...p=0&gl=35&gst=

It could be that the name is Greacher, and that my original theory that was the first post in the other thread, that the name was spun to seem Irish by putting a "Mc" and "y" on it, may have been right all along.

[novakjr]

Not to start anything. But greachery, is listed as a common misspelling for Treachery. Completely understandable, considering that the G is right below the T on a keyboard.. Co-incidentally, the definitions of Creachery(contextually based on how it was most often used) and Treachey are very similar in nature..

[cyseymour]

David,

The term creach later became used to describe plundering (probably derived from falling, ie, "fall from grace".)

I hadn't realized that Creachery was a word... very interesting. That means it would have been pronounced "McCreh" and not "McCree" since we know the pronunciation of "treachery".

That might make the McCrea/Chery riddle more likely in a way, seeing that the pronunciation is the same, and not pronounced "McCree".

Well, here you are getting me going again. Let's see if we can find out if it was a C or G before we go any further... too much left to question right now unless we really know the name.

Cheers