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Old 12-16-2012, 01:32 AM
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Steve, I think I sent you this Crawford throwing. Two of the three P150 planks have a similar marking run across the "Cigarette" line.



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Thanks Jantz and Chris. The chase is new, and those are better scans of the Planks than the ones I had.

I also have a scan of another p150 Plank. A fourth one, but I don't remember where the scan came from. That one doesn't have the scratch, but is different from the other unscratched one..

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Old 12-16-2012, 11:02 AM
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Got around to it finally. These have to be pretty hard to find, all I had was four of them. They are:

Mordecai Brown, Cubs on shirt
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I also have this card that I thought was interesting. Looks like the ink exploded all over the back. I don't think it is a wet stack, the player on front is McBride, who would've been directly over the worst spots. It also looks like just a ton of ink dots, rather than a pattern and the color matches the back color. It was the only card I had like this, so maybe it is nothing, maybe it is something worth starting a new thread over. P350 ink explosions?
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:40 AM
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This could be a key card towards your research Steve, crop mark in the top right corner, plus the plate scratch. You now know where one card definitely was on the sheet

It also has a wet sheet transfer, which I noticed on at least one other scan posted too
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After all this it would be pretty funny if the Plank was indeed suffering from plate problems and was pulled!
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If the T206 Plank was yanked due to "printing plate problems", then why isn't he featured on any other Tobacco cards printed at American
Lithographic (T3, T201, T202, T205, T213, T214, or T215) ?

The real story is that Eddie Plank and his boss, Connie Mack, were anti-tobacco guys. But, they did not go public about this as Wagner did.
They just did not give ATC permission to print their images on these tobacco cards.

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Durham, Murphy and Oldring
I was double checking some of the scans, are the back scans reversed?
Should it be Oldring, Murphy, Durham?
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Sorry Steve, not Piedmont backs, but I found a few Polar Bears with a plate scratch. Both fronts are the same player.

So how is the research going on the Piedmont plate scratches?


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Sorry Steve, not Piedmont backs, but I found a few Polar Bears with a plate scratch. Both fronts are the same player.

So how is the research going on the Piedmont plate scratches?


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That's cool! I'm interested in any odd marks, especially ones that there are a few copies to show it's a constant mark. I only started with P150 because there are so many of them.

The research has been going slow. I've found a few more, but still not as many as someone else had a while ago. (I forget who at the moment.)

I have seen some interesting ones.
A criger with some of the top of the back doubled. And not by just a little, the very top is shifted by the width of the curl at the upper right.

Goodwin has a Donlin currently that appears to show some efforts to repair the scratch. It looks like they erased the parts in the border and the main area of the back leaving it in the striped frame.

And one I'm still looking at, which looks like the scratch carried over into the 350 series. OR more likely remaining after the plate was resurfaced and reused.

I've also seen a few things that make me believe there were multiple sheet layouts. Especially Cobb, where there are cards that appear to be from the top, with others below. But at least one looks like it was in the bottom row.


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