Barely OT: ESPN Ranking Greatest Players

[packs]

To me if this list is based on pure ability and talent Ken Griffey Jr. is the second best baseball player of all time behind Ruth.

I'm very surprised that Rube Waddell and Dazzy Vance were both excluded from the Top 50. When Waddell played he was the most dominating pitcher to ever play Major League baseball. And Vance was just as dominating. How many guys lead the league in strikeouts 7 years in a row?

[EvilKing00]

Griffey at 34 is a joke, he should be way closer to the top 20

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

Griffey at 34 is a joke, he should be way closer to the top 20

i don't agree, I love Griffey but his batting average was never that good, his walks were so-so, and as great as he was in the 90s he only won one MVP. Not a top 20 of all time by any means in my view. Maybe the 6th best CF of all time behind Cobb Mays Speaker Dimaggio and Mantle.

[oldjudge]

Steroids or no steroids I think Cobb should be ranked number three (if not higher). Remember, the people who saw both Cobb and Ruth gave Cobb more HOF votes (and it wasn't like Cobb was loved). I think Bonds is rated way too high, Clemens too high(and I have always been a huge Roger Clemens fan), Mantle too high, Hornsby way too low. My order would be:

Ruth, Cobb, Mays, Aaron, Hornsby, Johnson, Gehrig, Wagner, Williams, Henderson, .........

[Peter_Spaeth]

Top ten nonpitchers, taking roid stats at face value: Ruth, Cobb, Mays, Williams, Bonds, Musial, Aaron, Gehrig, Wagner, Dimaggio.

[ynnek4]

"I never saw anyone like Ty Cobb. No one even close to him. He was the greatest all time ballplayer. That guy was superhuman, amazing." - Casey Stengel

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Steroids or no steroids I think Cobb should be ranked number three (if not higher). Remember, the people who saw both Cobb and Ruth gave Cobb more HOF votes (and it wasn't like Cobb was loved). I think Bonds is rated way too high, Clemens too high(and I have always been a huge Roger Clemens fan), Mantle too high, Hornsby way too low. My order would be:

Ruth, Cobb, Mays, Aaron, Hornsby, Johnson, Gehrig, Wagner, Williams, Henderson, .........

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ynnek4

"I never saw anyone like Ty Cobb. No one even close to him. He was the greatest all time ballplayer. That guy was superhuman, amazing." - Casey Stengel

+1...love him or hate him, he was absolutely incredible.