n172 Old Judge Pretzels "Getzien/Cetzein" Joke Card

[cyseymour]

let me also note that the "cetzein" cards in the OJ book date to the same exact year, 1888, as the McCreachery card. The OJ producers were making jokes of the names!

[sb1]

There are many, many German immigrants with the name Getzien or Getzein, there are NONE with the C in place of the G. In fact he used the name Getzien on all of the census data other documents, SO... I don't understand the comment:

It is a joke card regarding Pretzles Getzien's name.

Getzien is not a real German name.

[cyseymour]

Originally Posted by sb1

There are many, many German immigrants with the name Getzien or Getzein, there are NONE with the C in place of the G. In fact he used the name Getzien on all of the census data other documents, SO... I don't understand the comment:

It is a joke card regarding Pretzles Getzien's name.

Getzien is not a real German name.

Nothing came up when I googled it, but I'll have to take your word for it. But do you know anyone named Cetzein???

[sb1]

There is no one named Cetzien or Cetzein. There are lots of Getzein's and Getzien's. Your post states that the later is not a real German name. That is incorrect.

[cyseymour]

I had thought that it was perhaps a corruption of the word gesehen. Maybe not, but either way there is no one named Cetzein and that is what Pretzel Getzein was being called, so it doesn't undermine the point that it could have been a joke.

[cyseymour]

There doesn't seem to be anyone on the internet or facebook named Getzien, other the Pretzel Getzien himself. Where are all these people you are talking about? Hiding in a cave?

[sb1]

I don't use the internet or facebook to do factual research, that is very random. I used immigration and federal census data.

[MW1]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

There doesn't seem to be anyone on the internet or facebook named Getzien, other the Pretzel Getzien himself. Where are all these people you are talking about? Hiding in a cave?

From ancestry.com:

406 Historical Documents & Family Trees with Getzien

119 Census and Voter Lists; 5 Immigration Records; 149 Birth, Marriage, and Deaths; 124 Member Family Trees; 9 Military Records

http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?...urname=getzien

[felada]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

I had thought that it was perhaps a corruption of the word gesehen. Maybe not, but either way there is no one named Cetzein and that is what Pretzel Getzein was being called, so it doesn't undermine the point that it could have been a joke.

Or it could, like numerous other examples in the set, be nothing more than a misspelling. Either one I suppose.

[cyseymour]

The Getziens living in America today must be Amish. It is the only logical explanation for why they can't be found on facebook or the internet.

What I meant when I said it wasn't a German name was that it was a corruption of German. Very common coming off the boat for spellings to be wrong. I originally thought it was from the German "gesehen', but it must have been derived from "Gottsein", which translates to, "to be of God."

Gottsein makes sense because the Amish are obviously very religious, and German-speaking, as well. Also, I believe that "gott" in German is pronounced "get". Just like the name Goethe is pronounced more like "Gerte".