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Old 12-12-2012, 07:09 AM
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He says the father worked for Kodak and took a new test video recorder to the game.........

It would have been a film camera. Probably a cine-Kodak model b with a spring drive, which came out in 1925. The earlier ones were hand cranked and would have required a tripod to get a steady picture. Maybe a model BB which was new in 29 and took larger reels.

Video recorders were essentially nonexistent in 1929. Baird in England was recording some early television on records, but the equipment was far from portable. And the first commercially available video recorder wasn't sold until 1956. And it was huge.

Not the most credible story.

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Old 12-12-2012, 07:38 AM
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He says the father worked for Kodak and took a new test video recorder to the game.........

It would have been a film camera. Probably a cine-Kodak model b with a spring drive, which came out in 1925. The earlier ones were hand cranked and would have required a tripod to get a steady picture. Maybe a model BB which was new in 29 and took larger reels.

Video recorders were essentially nonexistent in 1929. Baird in England was recording some early television on records, but the equipment was far from portable. And the first commercially available video recorder wasn't sold until 1956. And it was huge.

Not the most credible story.

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I would think that they are just assigning modern vernacular to vintage technology. Sort of the opposite of calling a movie a 'film' when it may be digital. Not technically accurate, but you get the relevant info.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:00 AM
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Also consider that the guy using the term "video recorder" is not the Kodak employee who probably would have used the proper term.

Either way though, I would agree with the general sentiment that this video clip (sorry, film clip) is not definitive proof of the ball's authenticity, and could be applied in the same fashion to ANY Ruth-signed ball that passes through this gentleman's hands. It's like having a photo of a player sitting at a table with a pen in their hand as proof that your item was signed by them. It's nice to have, but it's not proof.

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I just think it was pretty cool that you could just walk up there and get an autograph..from such a big name player..compared to today.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:50 AM
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I just think it was pretty cool that you could just walk up there and get an autograph..from such a big name player..compared to today.
Ha, that was my thought too. It's like "Hey, run down there and get Babe to sign something." No big whoop. So jealous!
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:52 AM
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I just think it was pretty cool that you could just walk up there and get an autograph..from such a big name player..compared to today.
I know... really...

Today there are a dozen flunkies with headsets positioned to stop anyone that doesn't have tickets for those seats from going down to the edge of the field.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:03 PM
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I know... really...

Today there are a dozen flunkies with headsets positioned to stop anyone that doesn't have tickets for those seats from going down to the edge of the field.
And if you somehow managed to get down to the field, the players would just ignore you, anyway.
Don't want to just give away "the product."
It's bad business.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:05 PM
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the home movie doesnt show the signature on the ball, so nice as it is, its not proof it is the ball in the auction. it might be, but it might be that the signed ball was lost or signature faded to oblivion and this is another ball. there is no way to know. its a leap of faith.
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the home movie doesnt show the signature on the ball, so nice as it is, its not proof it is the ball in the auction. it might be, but it might be that the signed ball was lost or signature faded to oblivion and this is another ball. there is no way to know. its a leap of faith.
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After reading this thread, I dug around and re-located the thread on David A's 1927 forged Ruth ball. It took me all evening to read it (23 pages), but it was well worth it. The discussions on provenance were fantastic.

Also, belated congrats to David for his 'new' 1927 ball.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:06 PM
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After reading this thread, I dug around and re-located the thread on David A's 1927 forged Ruth ball. It took me all evening to read it (23 pages), but it was well worth it. The discussions on provenance were fantastic.

Also, belated congrats to David for his 'new' 1927 ball.
Thanks. Scott.
But the guy to congratulate on his 1927 ball is cottnot.
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