Trimmed Cards on Ebay

[Chris-Counts]

I too think the Boyer is miscut and not trimmed. I actually have no problem at all with trimmed cards, as long as they're labeled as trimmed. It's just another type of condition to me. As a type collector, I have many hand-cut cards (strip cards, Wheaties, Bazookas, etc.), so maybe I've just gotten used to cards without factory cuts. I've found several nice-looking trimmed cards at shows, informed the seller his card was trimmed, and negotiated a deep discount (typically about 50%). As a result, I've been able to afford cards I couldn't otherwise ...

[Harliduck]

To me a trimmed card is destroyed beyond value. If it was "barely" trimmed that would be one thing, but when a card is an 1/8th shorter than the rest, can't do it. I wish I felt the way you do, that Koufax is sweet other than that.

BTW...the Boyer is completely obvious when put with another non trimmed card, unless Fleer released "mini's" that year, haha.

[HRBAKER]

The '63 Fleer issue is NOTORIOUS for miscuts, diamond cuts and the like. There is an even chance the Boyer is not trimmed and came out of the pack that way.

[ALR-bishop]

Harli- I collect post war Topps and Fleer sets and have been doing so since 1957...and all are in binders and only a handful are graded. It is possible I have a few trimmed cards in my sets but I don't care. And I like bubblegum stains on cards. Collect them how you like them.

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Harli- I collect post war Topps and Fleer sets and have been doing so since 1957...and all are in binders and only a handful are graded. It is possible I have a few trimmed cards in my sets but I don't care. And I like bubblegum stains on cards. Collect them how you like them.

Amen

[vintagetoppsguy]

Koufax is an obvious trim job. I kind of agree with the others that the Boyer may be factory miscut. I really can't tell on the Mays, but the left border looks a little supsect.

Just because a card is 1/8th" short doesn't necessarily mean it's trimmed. I've had cards that were 1/8th" too tall/wide as well. Whenever I am suspicious of a card, I take my loupe and look at the grain of the cut comparing it to others that I know are good.

[Volod]

If the primary concern is how to detect a trimmed card in an online sale, assuming a good photo or scan of the item is available, would it not be possible to use some sort of ad lib measuring tactic on the scan itself to determine the relative size? That is, knowing the scale of certain features on a pristine example of the card set, such as the team name, relative to the actual length or breadth of the untrimmed card I would think would allow you to make a similar measurement on the screenshot of the suspect card to see if it measures up (or down). What do you think? Maybe not precise enough.

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by Volod

If the primary concern is how to detect a trimmed card in an online sale, assuming a good photo or scan of the item is available, would it not be possible to use some sort of ad lib measuring tactic on the scan itself to determine the relative size? That is, knowing the scale of certain features on a pristine example of the card set, such as the team name, relative to the actual length or breadth of the untrimmed card I would think would allow you to make a similar measurement on the screenshot of the suspect card to see if it measures up (or down). What do you think? Maybe not precise enough.

Let's see..I scroll through, let's say, 10,000 listings with my morning coffee. If I stopped to work the ratios, I would be getting up from the computer in time to go to bed....two days later

[skelly]

The two things in this hobby that drive me crazy are reprints and trimmed cards. I'd rather have a card that was bend / worn like crazy than a trimmed card, and I'm not exaggerating. Really bummed me out when I got back into collecting and realized that I'd "gathered" quite a few trimmed cards from years past.

[Volod]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

Let's see..I scroll through, let's say, 10,000 listings with my morning coffee. If I stopped to work the ratios, I would be getting up from the computer in time to go to bed....two days later

OK, I got ya. My frame of reference is more like a handful of cards a week. Wasn't thinking about high volume.