O/T....Why has the Rock-n-Roll HOF snubbed CHICAGO ?

tedzan · #1 11-16-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Most likely because Jann Wenner doesn't like them.

Peter

I know of Wenner (and, his politics); but, what does that have to do with Chicago not being in the R-n-R HOF ?

TED Z

drc · #2 11-16-2012, 02:44 PM

The Rock 'n Roll exists to make money. It's not as there was a pressing public need to give The Beatles, the Rolling Stones or Black Sabbath more attention and awards. They are having the public vote not because they think it will produce better selection, but for $$ and exposure-- which right there makes a selection illegitimate from the start.

There's nothing wrong with that stuff, I suppose. Just don't expect me to to take it seriously.

And, for the record, there are bands in the HOF that I like and think are good. I'm not saying that being inducted means a band sucks.

Runscott · #3 11-16-2012, 02:53 PM

Turn off your computer and go get on the bus

jcmtiger · #4 11-16-2012, 09:51 PM

Actually the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame should be in Detroit anyway, not Cleveland.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 11-16-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tedzan

Peter

I know of Wenner (and, his politics); but, what does that have to do with Chicago not being in the R-n-R HOF ?

TED Z

I believe he had some feud with the band or its manager, and it is claimed that he is very influential in terms of who gets in. Google Chicago Hall of Fame Wenner and you will see what I mean.

ethicsprof · #6 11-16-2012, 10:06 PM

I saw them perform when i was an undergraduate---1970 or so--- and have loved them ever since. They should definitely be in the HOF.
all the best,
barry

packs · #7 11-16-2012, 10:12 PM

Hall and Oates rules!

jdmeltz · #8 11-17-2012, 05:21 AM

Neil Diamond was inducted into the R&R HOF last year. He gave a notable acceptance speech:
"I have no idea where we are� What are we doing here? What the heck is going on right here?�

buymycards · #9 11-17-2012, 06:20 AM

Love Chicago. Just the lead guitar playing in 25 or 6 to 4 should be enough to put them in.

Peter_Spaeth · #10 11-17-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by buymycards

Love Chicago. Just the lead guitar playing in 25 or 6 to 4 should be enough to put them in.

Reportedly, Jimi Hendrix said that Terry Kath was better than he was.

Ladder7 · #11 11-17-2012, 06:40 AM

Worthy, When we were adolescents, the machos considered them a chick band, ala LRB and Barry White. But a necessary 8 track for the glovey. Agreed, everyone loved the Doobies x 10 (prior to Michael Mc)

Also for consideration; Grand Funk, Yes, Kansas, Derek and the Dominos, Boston, Rick Derringer, Foreigner, J Geils, Styx and all the others on my playlist.

tedzan · #12 11-17-2012, 06:47 AM

Check out this link for the "politics" behind why certain Rock groups (or individuals) have been snubbed by the R-n-R HOF........

http://www.futurerocklegends.com/blo...ry-snubbed.php

Thanks, Peter S.

TED Z

vintagechris · #13 11-20-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladder7

Worthy, When we were adolescents, the machos considered them a chick band, ala LRB and Barry White. But a necessary 8 track for the glovey. Agreed, everyone loved the Doobies x 10 (prior to Michael Mc)

Also for consideration; Grand Funk, Yes, Kansas, Derek and the Dominos, Boston, Rick Derringer, Foreigner, J Geils, Styx and all the others on my playlist.

Nice to see some love for Boston. To this day, still the best live concert I ever saw.

Robextend · #14 11-17-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jdmeltz

Neil Diamond was inducted into the R&R HOF last year. He gave a notable acceptance speech:
"I have no idea where we are� What are we doing here? What the heck is going on right here?�

Nice!!

HRBAKER · #15 11-17-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jdmeltz

Neil Diamond was inducted into the R&R HOF last year. He gave a notable acceptance speech:
"I have no idea where we are� What are we doing here? What the heck is going on right here?�

Certainly he should have had no idea what he was doing there.

MVSNYC · #16 11-17-2012, 11:26 AM

Side note- there's an awesome new Rolling Stones doc on HBO, called Crossfire Hurricane, focuses on their first 20 years...sex, drugs, rock & roll.

ps- biggest R&R HOF void, IMO- Depeche Mode, just sayin'

GregMitch34 · #17 11-17-2012, 01:34 PM

Is Jim Kaat in that one yet?

Rickyy · #18 11-18-2012, 03:41 AM

Grrrr....Rock N Roll Hall of Fame...why u no select Roxy Music? -_-

Btw...I love Chicago...because old days mentions baseball cards...

Ricky Y

drc · #19 11-18-2012, 05:09 AM

I like Dead Kennedys because half their song titles are so blatantly offensive that Leon wouldn't like me list them here.

Actually, Dead Kennedys' first album is an acknowledged punk classic, but it was their gleeful intention to lyrically shock uptight people. Those who were seriously offended (and there were quite a few) missed it that they their songs were satirical and often humorous.

mark evans · #20 11-18-2012, 10:51 AM

Music appreciation is pretty subjective stuff. Chicago is not my cup of tea but I presume they belong in the HOF due to a boatload of cd sales over many years.

drc · #21 11-18-2012, 01:28 PM

I'm unfamiliar with their music, so offer no opinion.

My all time favorite band is The Psychedelic Furs. I'm confident they won't be in the Hall of Fame.

And, yes, art appreciation is personal and subjective.

perezfan · #22 11-18-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by drc

I like Dead Kennedys because half their song titles are so blatantly offensive that Leon wouldn't like me list them here.

Actually, Dead Kennedys' first album is an acknowledged punk classic, but it was their gleeful intention to lyrically shock uptight people. Those who were seriously offended (and there were quite a few) missed it that they their songs were satirical and often humorous.

Yeah... lines like "Crushed little kids adorn the Boardwalk" are hard to sell to the masses. Most don't have the capacity to appreciate good satire or anything more complex or different from the mainstream.

I've always viewed the R & R Hall of Fame as a "lowest common denominator", and pay no attention to who they enshrine. If Chicago is out, that probably bodes well for the band's true worth.

The fact that Dion is "in", but bands like Squeeze, Depeche Mode and The Cure are not demonstrates the HOF's lack of diversity and imagination. I guess the Chili Peppers somehow got in, so perhaps there's hope for other innovative/alternative bands. Not that it matters much...

kcohen · #23 11-18-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

Yeah... lines like "Crushed little kids adorn the Boardwalk" are hard to sell to the masses. Most don't have the capacity to appreciate good satire or anything more complex or different from the mainstream.

I've always viewed the R & R Hall of Fame as a "lowest common denominator", and pay no attention to who they enshrine. If Chicago is out, that probably bodes well for the band's true worth.

The fact that Dion is "in", but bands like Squeeze, Depeche Mode and The Cure are not demonstrates the HOF's lack of diversity and imagination. I guess the Chili Peppers somehow got in, so perhaps there's hope for other innovative/alternative bands. Not that it matters much...

Maybe the important element is GOOD satire.

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