Marijuana laws- O/T

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by Leon

Comprehension is a dying trend. Side out merely means your turn. Had I said "game over" then your statement would ring true. As I said above, we are in America and eventually what the masses want is what we will do. There is no reasonable answer that I have seen or heard to not legalize given the legality of alcohol, tobacco etc....There are many, many reasons to legalize it and only a few reasons not to. I am not advocating the use of it only the legalization, which makes complete sense to most Americans. I believe it is inevitable and a good thing. God Bless America.

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I've enjoyed having a rational discussion about this topic, when we are constantly hearing about a "fiscal cliff" and "job creation" and things of such, I can't help but wonder why we as a nation can't find a middle ground. This is one of those topics that I feel , if done properly, could not only help our economy, create jobs, and at least put a dent in the enormous debt that will not only continue us down this spiral, but also leave too big of a burden on the children (tomorrows future). By no means am I (like Leon) advocating the use of it, but just hoping common sense will begin to make sense at some point.

We must close the divide in this country to work out all of the problems-there has to be a middle ground.

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From good people who have been on the front lines of the "war on drugs".

Sincerely, Clayton

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

+1

I've enjoyed having a rational discussion about this topic, when we are constantly hearing about a "fiscal cliff" and "job creation" and things of such, I can't help but wonder why we as a nation can't find a middle ground. This is one of those topics that I feel , if done properly, could not only help our economy, create jobs, and at least put a dent in the enormous debt that will not only continue us down this spiral, but also leave too big of a burden on the children (tomorrows future). By no means am I (like Leon) advocating the use of it, but just hoping common sense will begin to make sense at some point.

We must close the divide in this country to work out all of the problems-there has to be a middle ground.

If you care to, read what these people have to say: http://www.leap.cc/

From good people who have been on the front lines of the "war on drugs".

Sincerely, Clayton

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While everyone's looking at job "creation". Why not take a look at job "legitimization" as well. A good place to start would be the strip-clubs. Our government manages to regulate the hell out of the clubs and dancers, based on what they feel are morals, but somehow the dancers themselves have managed to not be taxed, as well as a large portion of these clubs cash income(dancer fees, door charges....) Dancers are "technically" subcontractors instead of employees, which makes it easier for them to hide from the system. Rather than focusing on regulating morals, why not regulate the clubs a little more, so that we can legitimatize these jobs and tax them. Not only will these people begin to show as employed, but it will take away that loophole that has allowed them to both, have jobs, while being able to milk the welfare system...

Now, I'm not saying all dancers are milking the system, but there's definitely a large percentage that is doing so..

[frankbmd]

You have to dance 30 hours a week to get health care.

And if you dance 20 hours a week each at two different strip clubs, you're still not covered. Well I guess we all knew that.

Welcome to part-time USA.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

You have to dance 30 hours a week to get health care.

And if you dance 20 hours a week each at two different strip clubs, you're still not covered. Well I guess we all knew that.

Welcome to part-time USA.

I'm not sure if that was sarcasm or not. If it's not. Where is this at? I'm not sure how the clubs are treated in "other" areas of the country. But I know in Ohio they're all treated as sub-contractors to the clubs, giving the clubs the opportunity to basically file as just another bar, while everything else is pretty much shoved under the table.

[frankbmd]

Not sarcasm. Just a statement about the unintended consequences of non-partisan government regulation. I could care less about strip clubs.

[Tsaiko]

....An awful lot of drug sniffing dogs will have to be retrained.

[thedutymon]

Morning,

As a Proud Coloradoan and Ex-law Enforcement, I have wished for this day for 30 years. And I haven't had a toke in at least 25 years or so. The reason's have all been laid out, the cost over the last 70+ years to fight this battle is in the Trillions. The moneys put into the pockets of the Cartels is in the Billions. The legitimate uses for Hemp, and now the New legitimate use of Hemp are going to transform our economies in small and big ways, in ways that have not even been imagined yet.

Little word of advice, Buy Stock in company's specializing in providing products (Grow Lights, Ect) to the Medical Pot industry now. You Will make money!!

To the members that seem to want to pass judgement on those who would indulge in this type of behavior, or wish to proclaim your Religious background into this debate or use it to judge anybody here, remember "Judge Not, lest ye be Judged!!"

I drink a few Beers almost every weekend.....Does that say something about me? Keep your comments about anothers Legal behavior to yourself, I don't appreciate it and I'll bet I'm not the only one!

Are there going to be some Hiccups...Oh Yeah !!! Our Governer has called and talked to the Federal Attorney General twice in the last two days to get clarification of what the Feds intend to do about our flouting of Federal Laws. We haven't heard an answer yet, either he isn't telling our Gov anything or what he's telling him is not going to be good for us.

As I said I haven't toked in 25 years, and don't intend to any time soon, but I am 56 and they say it helps with the Arthritists, so I'll never say never!

Another Big issue that hasn't really entered the discussion so far are about the individual rights that are/will be infringed upon with the Legalization in Wash/Col. Example, a Doritos Manufacturer has a plant in Denver and has a Drug policy of drug testing randomly, so Joe Pot head takes the test tomorrow and flunks it for Pot, they Fire him. The court cases are waiting in the background, he is and should sue them for unlawfull termination. Because they have no right to tell him that he cannot indulge in a Perfectly Legal substance on his own time at his home! (There is no test that tells when it was imbibed, just that you did it in the last 30-45 days). That would be the same thing as telling me that I can't go home and have a Beer. So Joe is in violation of Federal Controlled Substance act, but in compliance with State Law, I don't start teelling me what I already know, that Fed trumps State. I see the Lawsuits already and you can take that to the Bank !!!

As to those that mentioned about the DUI and testing for driving under the infuence of Pot, they do indeed have tests that can be administered Roadside that test levels of cannabis.

Proud to Call Colorado my Home, be a Coloradoan, and to be on the front line of a new Era in rational Drug Policy's !!!!

YeeHah

[MacDice]

I don't think that the money raised by the legalization of pot is going to be as much as people think? It will be taxed at an extremely high rate and the number of locations that it will be available will be limited thus most people are probably not going to buy it through the "legal" outlets. If it stays legal, it will be taxed at 25% in the state of Washington. It will be interesting since it is federal law trumps state law...

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by MacDice

I don't think that the money raised by the legalization of pot is going to be as much as people think? It will be taxed at an extremely high rate and the number of locations that it will be available will be limited thus most people are probably not going to buy it through the "legal" outlets. If it stays legal, it will be taxed at 25% in the state of Washington. It will be interesting since it is federal law trumps state law...

You understand there are more places to buy marijuana in Colorado than Starbucks?

This in every sense of the word is a "cash crop".

[cubsfan-budman]

Well, I dont think that places to get it will be limited. In Colorado you can grow. Everyone who grows is a potential "dealer"...and there's no way to tax those transactions, any more than you can tax my homebrew beer.

That said, I'd guess that most sales would happen through the normal means, especially after the novelty of growing/harvesting/drying/etc wears off.

[jcmtiger]

Maybe I missed in this in one of the prior posts. Anyone trying to be hired by a company for a job will be tested for drugs. If they test positive for drugs no job. Does this not concern anyone? Legalized in Colorado, more people out of work.
Joe