HOF releases pre-Integration ballot today.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Well we can start with ones that come up all the time: Hodges, Garvey, Oliva, Munson, Maris.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well we can start with ones that come up all the time: Hodges, Garvey, Oliva, Munson, Maris.

Absolutely support Hodges and Oliva. On the fence about Garvey. I see the argument for Munson and Maris but remain unconvinced thus far.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It's surprising, in light of Hodges' impressive career stats, that he does so poorly on baseball reference. Bill James ranks him only #30 among first basemen, too.


Black Ink

Batting - 2 (604), Average HOFer ≈ 27




Gray Ink

Batting - 128 (140), Average HOFer ≈ 144




Hall of Fame Monitor

Batting - 83 (225), Likely HOFer ≈ 100




Hall of Fame Standards

Batting - 32 (272), Average HOFer ≈ 50

[Kenny Cole]

I give Hodges credit for his awesome fielding, and some more credit for his management of the Mets. He died early, was never a self-promoter while alive, and faded from the spotlight long ago. But he was probably one of, if not the, most admired and respected ballplayers, by other ballplayers, of his time.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Garvey also fares poorly, to my surprise as he surely was for quite a few years one of the best players in the game.


Black Ink

Batting - 12 (199), Average HOFer ≈ 27




Gray Ink

Batting - 142 (112), Average HOFer ≈ 144




Hall of Fame Monitor

Batting - 130 (106), Likely HOFer ≈ 100




Hall of Fame Standards

Batting - 32 (281), Average HOFer ≈ 50