How important is centering to you? Green Cobb choice

ullmandds · #1 11-01-2012, 11:00 AM

question doesn't state anything about cost...but since when does anyone pay attention to the question asked anyway?!

bn2cardz · #2 11-01-2012, 11:13 AM

I take factory condition issues over owner wear and tear any day. The centering is the way the card was made. It isnt something caused by some previous owner. My collecting habits make me wonder why any one could consider an off centered card to be flawed.

I am only answering which flaws i would rather have. For the cost I would take a common in the set. They come from the same press.

Leon · #3 11-01-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I take factory condition issues over owner wear and tear any day. The centering is the way the card was made. It isnt something caused by some previous owner. My collecting habbits make me wonder why any one could consider on off centered card to be flawed.

I am only answering which flaws i would rather have. For the cost I would take a common in the set. They come from the same press.

Because one of the main things we look at in acquiring our gems is aesthetics. This card in question, that is top to bottom O/C, is flawed from the mfg, imo. It isn't a man-made flaw but a factory one.
When cards are close in condition I prefer better centering, as most members so far in the poll do.

corrected myself concerning value...I did put it in the question

bn2cardz · #4 11-02-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I take factory condition issues over owner wear and tear any day. The centering is the way the card was made. It isnt something caused by some previous owner. My collecting habits make me wonder why any one could consider an off centered card to be flawed.

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Originally Posted by Leon

Because one of the main things we look at in acquiring our gems is aesthetics. This card in question, that is top to bottom O/C, is flawed from the mfg, imo. It isn't a man-made flaw but a factory one.
When cards are close in condition I prefer better centering, as most members so far in the poll do.

I understand everyone has differing collecting habits, I am just saying from my mindset I can't equate pre-distribution errors (factory flaws) with post distribution flaws.

Leon you seem to be an enigma to me. I am relatively new to the boards but I have seen you show printing freaks (like your multi-printed back t206 Mullaney), but now you talk about the aesthetics and refer to production flaws to be equivalent to post distribution flaws. (Not judging your collecting, but I was surprised to see that you were on the pro centering side of the coin)

ullmandds · #5 11-02-2012, 11:47 AM

Leon is the ultimate type collector...he doesnt discriminate.

Runscott · #6 11-02-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Leon you seem to be an enigma to me. I am relatively new to the boards but I have seen you show printing freaks (like your multi-printed back t206 Mullaney), but now you talk about the aesthetics and refer to production flaws to be equivalent to post distribution flaws. (Not judging your collecting, but I was surprised to see that you were on the pro centering side of the coin)

Not that Leon is not an enigma, but my guess would be that if there was only one green Cobb with a short top, and through some miracle of technology we could be certain that it was factory-cut, Leon would have to have one.

Leon · #7 11-02-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I understand everyone has differing collecting habits, I am just saying from my mindset I can't equate pre-distribution errors (factory flaws) with post distribution flaws.

Leon you seem to be an enigma to me. I am relatively new to the boards but I have seen you show printing freaks (like your multi-printed back t206 Mullaney), but now you talk about the aesthetics and refer to production flaws to be equivalent to post distribution flaws. (Not judging your collecting, but I was surprised to see that you were on the pro centering side of the coin)

I love printing freaks and have several more to put in the new pick up thread. However, when they are regular cards I like them to be centered. I know it's not normal but I never claimed to be normal

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Runscott · #8 11-02-2012, 06:37 PM

Ted, here's mine - seems to fit your theory. I just cracked it out a few days ago:

freakhappy · #9 11-01-2012, 11:22 AM

I love centering, but for vintage cards I would take overall appeal over just centering. In this case I would pick B, but honestly would love to have either because both look great.

Plus sometimes with o/c cards you get the fat borders...but not in this case.

Big Ben · #10 11-03-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I take factory condition issues over owner wear and tear any day. The centering is the way the card was made. It isnt something caused by some previous owner. My collecting habits make me wonder why any one could consider an off centered card to be flawed.

I am only answering which flaws i would rather have. For the cost I would take a common in the set. They come from the same press.

I am in this camp especially for vintage. Both are nice cards, but if the price was equal I would prefer A which is the cleaner card. On a separate note, I have alway thought that overall, grading companies tend to be a little lenient with Cobb cards. Saying that, I know that there are far more informed people on this board than me.

bunst · #11 11-01-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

question doesn't state anything about cost...but since when does anyone pay attention to the question asked anyway?!

The poll question says: "Which would you take if both were valued the same?" I take value to also mean cost, but maybe I'm looking at it wrong

ullmandds · #12 11-01-2012, 11:33 AM

oh...oopsie...I didn't read the poll question...sorry!!!!

majordanby · #13 11-01-2012, 11:51 AM

i always find it hard to digest off centering for portraits...especially one as iconic as the t206 cobb

barrysloate · #14 11-01-2012, 12:03 PM

I thought B was nicer, and at less than half the price. No comparison.

Big Six · #15 11-01-2012, 12:06 PM

I'd take B all day...even if the other card was a higher graded off-center...centering bothers me more than anything else.

paulcarek · #16 11-01-2012, 12:13 PM

Agree with majordanby. When the image is "symmetrical," as in a portrait, bad L/R centering bothers me. When the image favors one side, though, a wider border on the other side can actually sort of balance things out. (Not my card, BTW.)

brob28 · #17 11-01-2012, 12:14 PM

All other things equal, I'd take B, centering is critical to me.

John V · #18 11-01-2012, 12:28 PM

It's all about eye appeal. B is my choice also.

wonkaticket · #19 11-01-2012, 01:22 PM

My current two, based on looks above I would take B but A is also a very nice card.

GoldenAge50s · #20 11-01-2012, 01:23 PM

"B" wins for me, altho T-B centering on A does not stress me at all! Bad L-R centering does make me think twice, however.

View Poll Results: Which would you take if both were valued the same?
I would pick A	29	18.13%
I would pick B	131	81.88%
Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll

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