Ruth/Gehrig Help, Thoughts, Ideas for research

[JimStinson]

Originally Posted by cottnat

I am fairly new to this era of baseball memorabilia (never thought I would be in a position to own a ball like this).

Is there something specific to Giard & Grabowski that help the chances of this ball being legitimate or was it more out of curiosity?

In addition to attempting to help you specify the year, the reason I asked about Joe Giard is that (on paper) his autograph alone is more valuable than either Babe Ruth or Lou Gehrig.
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[cottnat]

Originally Posted by JimStinson

In addition to attempting to help you specify the year, the reason I asked about Joe Giard is that (on paper) his autograph alone is more valuable than either Babe Ruth or Lou Gehrig.
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Very interesting. What makes him so tough or rare? Why is it that his auto on paper is worth so much more than on a ball? Is his auto on the ball I have make it worth the $15,000+ or is it more so Ruth/Gehrig doing that?

Sorry for so many more questions, I just find this fascinating.

[David Atkatz]

Giard is rarer on paper items than he is on team baseballs. In addition some people construct framed and matted signature displays of all members of the team, and to do so, you need a Giard.
What makes your ball valuable is that it's a reasonably complete 1927 Yankees team ball, in very good condition. It is the most desired of all team balls--many collector's "Holy Grail."
The key to a particularly desirable 1927 ball is the presence of all the starter's signatures, along with those of the primary pitchers. After that, it's nice to have the rarer autographs--especially manager Huggins--but Giard's presence or absence does not change the value of the ball much, if at all.

[cottnat]

Makes sense, thanks again for the insight and help. I couldn't help but keep checking this site from time to time all day today and last night just to keep learning more about it. I really do appreciate all the feedback and expertise.

[cottnat]

Final Pics before I put it away in a safe today. Just thought I would share pictures with a little more detail to confirm signatures on the ball.

Sweet Spot:
Babe Ruth


Panel 1: top to bottom
Myles Thomas
Earle Combs
Julie Wera
Cedric Durst
Miller Huggins, but seems off? Other ideas?
Pilot signatures including John P Wood?




Panel 2: top to bottom
Lou Gehrig
George Pipgras
Mark Koenig
Mike Gazella
Bob Meusel
Herb Pennock
Bob Shawkey



Panel 3: top to bottom
Wilcy Moore
Urban Shocker
Pat Collins
Dutch Ruether
Joe Giard



Panel 4: top to bottom
John Grabowski
Joe Dugan
Ben Paschal
Mystery signature?
Waite Hoyt



Ball Decals:

[David Atkatz]

The "mystery signature" is that of coach Don Miller.

[David Atkatz]

That is one of the nicest '27 balls I have ever seen.
It's worth quite a bit more than $15k!

[PhilNap]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

The "mystery signature" is that of coach Don Miller.

Miller was actually a player but never saw game action. He was a young pitcher who joined the team mid season striaght from graduating from Michigan. He remained with the team through the World Series. I have seen a news article which references him tossing BP before a World Series game.