An inescapable dilema for Lance Armstrong is...

[laughlinfan]

I think I heard yesterday that of the 21 top three finishers in the 7 years he won the Tour, 20 of them have been implicated of using PEDs. Sadly, with so much money at stake, I think the bigger race is between the chemists and the testers, and it seems as though the testers are destined to be years behind.

[frankbmd]

When I was ill and not working several years ago (not sure which year), I watched the Tour. For several days in a row the previous days leader was disqualified for PEDs or somesuch and a new leader was named. It was difficult to sustain interest in the competitive aspect of the race, but.........

the scenery was beautiful. The chateaus and castles are awesome.

I have some Lance Armstrong 1992 Olympic Rookie Cards available. That's my dilemma.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by laughlinfan

I think I heard yesterday that of the 21 top three finishers in the 7 years he won the Tour, 20 of them have been implicated of using PEDs. Sadly, with so much money at stake, I think the bigger race is between the chemists and the testers, and it seems as though the testers are destined to be years behind.

Some of my cycling friends here on the board will disagree with me on this, and I certainly respect their opinions, but this sport got to a point where anyone who was serious about winning HAD to cheat in order to compete with the other cheaters. I'm not condoning it, just saying that according to ...the cheaters... the great but clean athletes weren't capable of making the leader board. And if you hear a 'clean' athlete say that this isn't true, there's a good chance that he's actually just another cheater who hasn't been caught yet. Sad state of affairs.

Who let the sport get to that point? Is it still there? Catching Lance (and others) doesn't mean the sport is now squeaky clean.

[Touch'EmAll]

It appears Lance simply cheated better than anyone else. He is getting penalized because he cheated too good. If he cheated just average like everyone else, who knows, maybe he wouldn't be in this mess. On a side note, I am a competitive Masters swimmer - just had a couple swim meets recently. I swear some of the older dudes (50 ish + age) look just too good and buff. This day in age, I wonder? Hmmm?

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

It appears Lance simply cheated better than anyone else. He is getting penalized because he cheated too good. If he cheated just average like everyone else, who knows, maybe he wouldn't be in this mess. On a side note, I am a competitive Masters swimmer - just had a couple swim meets recently. I swear some of the older dudes (50 ish + age) look just too good and buff. This day in age, I wonder? Hmmm?

+1

[drc]

I think if you ask many people-- in particular women--, the lying is the offense greater than the doping. Notice that the baseball players forgiven by the public for using PEDs are the ones who admit to it and apologize. The ones who are still derided are the ones who continue to deny it even though it is obvious to most they used.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

I swear some of the older dudes (50 ish + age) look just too good and buff. This day in age, I wonder? Hmmm?

There's nothing unusual about someone 50+ looking 'too good and buff.' Too good by today's pastry-eating society, maybe, but our bodies are there waiting for us to use them.