1914 CK Joe Jackson

[Leon]

I would be asking questions and talking to this guy on the phone before I sent any money. His feedback is much less than inspiring given the nature and value of this card..Also, of the 3 sales he has made in the last year, the combined feedback of the 3 buyers is 6.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-or-1915...ALE_CURRENCY=0




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[yanksfan09]

absolutely is the same card.....look at caramel stains on the back. Look at small dark stain on the P in Philadelphia. You can match every stain, small and large on the 2 cards....

[Bigb13]

Do I have to wait to file a claim?

[rainier2004]

I contacted the seller pretty quick after it was posted. Asked for additional scans and a local p/u to this response:

Dear rainier2004,

Yeas it does seem to be trimmed i had a employee list this item on night shift last night so i will have to revise it sometime today. It looks like all the sides may be trimmed. There are also glue stains on the back of the card that has bleed through to the front. Also there are two pin holes all the way through the card that can not be seen in the photo. I will try to get some more pictures so you can see the other flaws the card has.


- rbcd2001

He does offer money back, but left me uncomfortable ignoring the p/u question as I told him I was right down the street in NJ. His feedback is on very low-priced items, non-bb cards. He had a raw ex+ 1953T Mantle f/s as well that looked fishy to me as well and is longer posted. Couldnt find the pinholes in the scan...be careful here boss. Good luck and let us know.

[Bigb13]

His two Mantles are ended. How do I can't act ebay?

[slomer]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

I contacted the seller pretty quick after it was posted. Asked for additional scans and a local p/u to this response:

Dear rainier2004,

Yeas it does seem to be trimmed i had a employee list this item on night shift last night so i will have to revise it sometime today. It looks like all the sides may be trimmed. There are also glue stains on the back of the card that has bleed through to the front. Also there are two pin holes all the way through the card that can not be seen in the photo. I will try to get some more pictures so you can see the other flaws the card has.


- rbcd2001

He does offer money back, but left me uncomfortable ignoring the p/u question as I told him I was right down the street in NJ. His feedback is on very low-priced items, non-bb cards. He had a raw ex+ 1953T Mantle f/s as well that looked fishy to me as well and is longer posted. Couldnt find the pinholes in the scan...be careful here boss. Good luck and let us know.

Hi, this is Dave Slomer,I had a very unpleasent time, about two months ago. Andy madic , was flying into cincy to pick up some items for mile high auction(andy has since parted from mile high) and I had a psa 6 ,perfectly centered 1952 mantle as part of pick up.I was very ill at the time ,more ill when andy told me , my mantle was bogus. apparently the new game now is to (1) remove the expensive card and sell it raw and replace with computer generated image or (2) forge the psa or sgc top description and grade #.the tell tale sign is the plastic will look like it's been glued back together. I have a happy ending, I emailed the seller and suggested a police and federal postal investigation and recieved my joe jackson rc,ty cobb t3, sgc a, and my goudey #181 Ruth back.

[michael3322]

I agree with the guys who have responded so far. Leon makes an excellent point. Look at the seller's feedback. He hasn't sold anything else remotely close to this price. In June 2009, he sold something for just over $200.

Isn't it odd that all of a sudden he would be selling a premiere vintage Jackson card? His 3 current auctions are for fishing reels <$5.

Do us all a favor, since you created this thread, and let us know what happens.

Good luck.

[Bigb13]

Filed a claim with PayPal already escalated

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by Bigb13

Filed a claim with PayPal already escalated

Any more details on this one yet?

[kcohen]

And for icing on the cake, the card was given to him by his grandfather.

[823dek]

get a 2nd opinion next time from possibly a member on if they had heard about this seller. Chances are on a key card ,one here would know someone who knows someone who knows someone... Good luck.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Leon

I would be asking questions and talking to this guy on the phone before I sent any money. His feedback is much less than inspiring given the nature and value of this card..Also, of the 3 sales he has made in the last year, the combined feedback of the 3 buyers is 6.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-or-1915...ALE_CURRENCY=0




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[iwantitiwinit]

Leon is totally right. He has only made 3 sales in the past year and each buyer has 3 or fewer feedbacks. Something stinks and stinks bad. The poor grammar is also a give away. If someone makes more than 5 grammatical errors per sentence I stay away from the listing. But let me get this straight you paid 4700 for an ungraded card listed on ebay from a guy that has made three five dollar sales in the past year and who can't compose a sentence any better than a second grader. Doesn't seem like the smartest thing in the world to do.