Gehrig gpc

[baseballart]

Originally Posted by bender07

Seems odd that there are two postage stamps. One from Boston on Aug 2nd and the other from the Bronx on Aug 4th? The Bronx one looks very crisp as well.

I can't comment on the signature or on how postage stamps were used, but when I look at it, isn't the Boston stamp August 8 and not August 2, or are my eyes just particularly bad today?

Max

[JimStinson]

I thought the same thing that it might have been postmarked on the 8th from Boston , but even on the 8th the Yankees were still in NYC. Unless in 1937 Danbury CT didn;t have a post office and routed their mail through Boston
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[baseballart]

Is it possible there were two postmarks in the normal course? From August 4 to get it to Boston and on August 8 to get it to Danbury? (I know I should have been a philatelist).

Max

[JimStinson]

Yes, its absolutely possible that a GPC would have two postmarks , happens sometimes. But unless Lou elected to drive up to Boston after a game in NYC and then return it would not have been possible for him to be in two places at the same time. And he had that "consecutive game" thing he was working on too so he would not have missed a game to go up to Boston ahead of the team which did not arrive there until the 9th.
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[David Atkatz]

The postmark is certainly August 2nd (my birthday!), when the Yanks were in St. Louis.
Further, there are unambiguous signs of the writing being forged. An excellent forgery, to be sure, but a forgery nonetheless.

[JimStinson]

Unless the Almanac is wrong the Yanks were in NYC on the 2nd. But in order for any of it to make sense the 1st postmark (from NYC) would have had to preceed the later.
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[bender07]

Originally Posted by JimStinson

Unless the Almanac is wrong the Yanks were in NYC on the 2nd. But in order for any of it to make sense the 1st postmark (from NYC) would have had to preceed the later.
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The postmark issue seems odd in that why would a forger even mess with that when there's one on the address side? Any thoughts on the autograph itself?

[David Atkatz]

Jim, the Yanks were in St. Louis on August 1, and in Chicago on August 3. August 2 was a travel day. Check it yourself:

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/team...p?y=1937&t=NYA

Besides, there are "tells' in the signature itself.

[steve B]

The postmark on the stamp side would be from the city the card was mailed from.
The postmark on the back would be the recieing post offices mark, some places used one that actually said "recieved".

And that makes a bunch of stuff wrong. Mail from NYC to Danbury wouldn't normally have been sent to Boston first. Danbury is actually closer to NYC than Boston and directly on one of the major rail routes.
A postcard mailed from NY to Danbury typically would have been delivered the next day.

So either the card was sent from NY to Danbury and forwarded to Boston without getting a Danbury reciever mark OR more likely was sent from NY to Boston and originally had a pencil address and message.

So the address is probably fake too.

Steve B

[David Atkatz]

The card could not have been sent from NY. The NY postmark is dated Aug 4, while the Boston postmark is Aug 2,
I doubt very much the card was received before it was sent.
(Unless, of course, it traveled faster-than-light.)

[canjond]

Guys - I don't think the front and back are the same GPC. Look at the heavy crease in the upper left corner of the signature side. That crease is missing on the address side of the scan (should be right around where the postage is). My guess - 2 different GPCs, hence two different cancellations.

[Forever Young]

Holy sh*t am I a moron. I am so sorry guys.. talk about an impossible task to give proper advise. Below is the correct back. I really do not know what to say other than I am sorry. I had an email with a ton of gpc front and backs from this seller. I simply copied them wrong and didn't catch it. I did this stone sober...which is troubling. Just goes to show how important it is seeing a piece in person I guess. Let this be a lesson to you all.... LOL. God, did I mention I was an idiot?? Again.. sorry guys.

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[canjond]

Knowing what we now know, I'm going out on a limb here and saying the auto may be authentic. There are aspects of the writing I really like. That said, I would greatly value the opinions of others who have posted and would factor those in if I was considering purchasing.

[yanks12025]

Can someone explain to why they would stamp it twice within 45 minutes?

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by canjond

Knowing what we now know, I'm going out on a limb here and saying the auto may be authentic. There are aspects of the writing I really like. That said, I would greatly value the opinions of others who have posted and would factor those in if I was considering purchasing.

Jon,

My gut was it was good. Because of this, I was interested and had the guy send me scans of the back. I was then confused. I sent it to Mr. David Atkatz on here for his opinion. He initially thought it was good too until I confused him and send him the back. It is pretty tough(near impossible) not to second guess yourself when the back was thought to be fact. So... I thought I would post it on here thinking it was odd. I cannot believe I didn't catch something as simple as a large crease... haha. Anyway, I have had another highly respected member(autograph expert) here PM me and tell me he thought it was good as well. Based on the feedback I have received in PM and comparing to other exemplars(a 1937 gpc on ebay for example), it appears to be authentic. I apologize again for the confusion.

Ben

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by canjond

Knowing what we now know, I'm going out on a limb here and saying the auto may be authentic. There are aspects of the writing I really like. That said, I would greatly value the opinions of others who have posted and would factor those in if I was considering purchasing.

Me too Jon, I am thinking it is good as well.