Re-Cutting Hand Cut Cards

[steve B]

It's a tough question.

I think the answer is that it's usually ok to do it, but I probably wouldn't.

There are a few things that would make me say it wouldn't be ok. If the cut was bad enough that it showed part of another card or some sort of markings from the edge of the sheet. Stuff like that I think would be wrong to trim off.

Steve B

[Forever Young]

I was actually just wondering this the other day as it relates to the old strip cards. If one is cut down, does that make any difference if it is considered just authentic or can me graded a 1, 2, 3..ect? In other words, is there a border point? Most cards I see with a numeric grade have decent size borders. The AUT examples almost always seem very "trimmed". Is this just coincidence?

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

I was actually just wondering this the other day as it relates to the old strip cards. If one is cut down, does that make any difference if it is considered just authentic or can me graded a 1, 2, 3..ect? In other words, is there a border point? Most cards I see with a numeric grade have decent size borders. The AUT examples almost always seem very "trimmed". Is this just coincidence?

So again... the strip cards... if the borders are cut off almost entirely to make it perfectly sharp, will psa and/or sgc still give it a numeric grade(w514 for example). Any experts know this?

[christopher.herman]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

So again... the strip cards... if the borders are cut off almost entirely to make it perfectly sharp, will psa and/or sgc still give it a numeric grade(w514 for example). Any experts know this?

Of course.

The TPG companies does not know "when" the card was cut. PSA will put "hand cut" on the label.

Trimming "excess" borders is very common for strips and you should assume as much if you see a "perfectly sharp" strip card.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by christopher.herman

Of course.

The TPG companies does not know "when" the card was cut. PSA will put "hand cut" on the label.

Trimming "excess" borders is very common for strips and you should assume as much if you see a "perfectly sharp" strip card.

Ok... that is what I thought. I didn't know if they applied a certain standard for how much border needed to be present to grade out. Thus my question... thank you for your response sir.
So basically.. the guy who spend 15k on the Ruth w514 psa 8 is kind of out of his mind as far as true scarcity goes?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PoP-1-BABE-R...p2047675.l2557
It seems to me that these will never reach high dollar amounts in the minds of most graded collectors(ones who spend the big money) as pretty much anything goes. Just my opinion. And btw.. I am out of my mind too when it comes to this stuff so if the buyer of that card is out there, please take no offense.
I actually really dig the look and feel of the w514 strip cards. The good news is, I will be able to buy them as they are relatively inexpensive for a presentable example. The bad news is.. perhaps not a great investment as far as cards go.

[Exhibitman]

I do it any time I get a strip card with a bad cut and margin for a fix. A raggedly cut strip card annoys me. It looks lousy in my binder and doesn't fit with the other cards from my sets. I don't trim the card to the point of being undersized because that annoys me too.

I guess I get annoyed easily.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I guess I get annoyed easily.

HAHAHA... AWESOME. Me too...

[christopher.herman]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

So basically.. the guy who spend 15k on the Ruth w514 psa 8 is kind of out of his mind as far as true scarcity goes?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PoP-1-BABE-R...p2047675.l2557

Possibly.

Here's mine for comparison:

[steve B]

I thought they would only give a handcut card an A unless some or most of the original border is showing.
Trimming straight and square may not be enough. It would make a crooked rough card better looking, but not necessarily gradeable.

None of mine are better than "A" either way.


Steve B

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by christopher.herman

Possibly.

Here's mine for comparison:

This is the grade I find appealing but I guess you could just trim it down and get a higher grade?? Silly to me.. just promotes more trimming. I feel there should be an amount of borde rthat needs to me on the card to grade out. maybe there is... hence my question.

[robw1959]

There is a border point for these strip cards, usually designated by dotted lines around the perimeter. I've only submitted about a half dozen strip cards for grading, and they all came back with "AUT" except for a Walter Johnson card that earned a "3." Of course that card has much more of its border intact.