Are people dumping E98's?

[ullmandds]

Tim's almost there...it won't be long now?!?!

I still think the BS find has caused a lot of e98's to hit the market due to fear of falling prices and it will take many years for things to return to prior levels once the extent of the find hits the marketplace. Just mo!

[cobblove]

Have any others from the find been sold yet?

[Tim Kindler]

I love discussing E98s, so I'm thankful for this thread. Thanks for the kind words Peter and Rob. Yep, only 8 to go, but I'm not fooling myself. It might be awhile yet.... I still need 2 Cobbs and 2 Youngs! Anyway, I guess you are correct Brian in that those on ebay didn't go for too much, but I did think the Tenney was high. But, then again, when it comes to one you really need you will always pay whatever it takes. I will probably pay some pretty stupid prices for what I have left to get as well when they come up for sale
Brian, Congratulations on that Blue Tenney. It is a tough one. I was fortunate to find one this year at the National. Very thankful for the price on it as well.

I'm really not sure about the prices yet??? I did see that the E98 population report on SGC went up by about 150 cards in the last few weeks. Most of them seem to be realy high grades as well. This has to be some of the Black Swamp cards right???? Are these going to be new to the general public or would the buyers of the big Heritage Auction have crossed them over...which I doubt, but who knows?

Pete, If you are going after that Blue Chance in Goodwin, good luck my friend! That was sincere! If you haven't seen Pete's near set on the SGC registry, it is worth checking out. Beautiful cards. My four sets are not updated, but still on there. I need to send some off to SGC!
Tim Kindler

[pcoz]

Thanks Tim, and congrats to be down the homestretch on an amazing collection/accomplishment! Yes, my hat's in the ring on the Chance. We'll see, it's getting up there! Brian, nice work on the Blue Tenney, as another may not come up for years! I don't think there's been a flood in the market of E98's. Putting it in perspective, outside of the National promos, there's less than 20 on ebay. Just went to the Philly show, and there was literally 2(only 4 E94's) that I saw at the whole show. There's a lack of clarity right now with where the market will inevitably be when the rest of the BSF gets unloaded(I heard all of them by the end of the year for estate tax purposes), what the future interest will be in master set collectors and the value of the different colors. It's not a matter of if, but when the caramels heat up again, I'm sure we'll see those that have them without long term collecting intentions sell into strength. Sorry for rambling, but I just don't think we've seen that many recently to say they've been getting dumped.

[ullmandds]

Additionally...does the ranking of difficulty of E98 need to be reconsidered in comparison to other e issues?

[pcoz]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Additionally...does the ranking of difficulty of E98 need to be reconsidered in comparison to other e issues?

They have been very tough to find, especially these past couple of years. We can probably all chime in on player/color difficulty, with some really standing out, ie..Red Lajoie, Blue Mack, etc...For both SGC & PSA Pop reports there are just under 2,500 total. So, about 82 cards on average per player, with some in those numbers that have been crossed between each company. Of course there are some ungraded floating around not in those numbers as well. So, let's say 100-120 per player, give or take a few. So, E98's are still somewhat scarce even after the BSF. I'm not sure where they stack up vs. other E sets, but I'd say probably in the middle of the pack.

[ullmandds]

Nice synopsis pete...i for the most part...agree!

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by pcoz

So, let's say 100-120 per player, give or take a few. So, E98's are still somewhat scarce even after the BSF. I'm not sure where they stack up vs. other E sets, but I'd say probably in the middle of the pack.

I don't think so Pete...with those graded pops, E98 is now likely one of the least scarce E sets if you are combining all colors of E98. I'd say only Cracker Jack is as available as E98 now. Maybe E95 too. I believe even E90-1 looks scarcer, based on graded pops.

(Of course there is always the weakness of relying too much on graded pops, as opposed to ungraded cards in collections, but that is true of any such comparison.)


Cheers,
Blair