T206 ed walsh blue old mill sgc 30!

[bn2cardz]

Didn't SGC (along with PSA) also encapsulate an Old Mill black overprint that turned out to be fake?

This may be why some people are still skeptical when a new Old Mill anomaly hits the market.

Old Mill black overprint apology forum

[packs]

I'm not saying there has to be two of EVERY card. It just seems logical that cards from this particular set, of which probably hundred of thousands were made, there would have to be at least two of everything. Especially considering as I've said there are at least two of even the most extreme, semmingly one off printing freaks from this set (yellow and brown ink only cards, cards with huge color splotches across the fronts, ghost images, severely miscut half of one card half of another cards, grossly over-printed backs, etc.). There's no comparing cards printed for the T206 set to Tango Eggs or any other obscure type set when looking for variables or considering population numbers.

Edited to add we also know without a doubt that these cards were printed in sheets. That's why there would have to be at least two and why there are two of every other printing anomaly.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Didn't SGC (along with PSA) also encapsulate an Old Mill black overprint that turned out to be fake?

This may be why some people are still skeptical when a new Old Mill anomaly hits the market.

Old Mill black overprint apology forum

+1 And thanks for posting that link.

Sincerely, Clayton

[T206Collector]

You can put me on the highly skeptical side of the ledger. Based on nothing more than the obvious -- the color of the printing.

We now live in a T206 economy where slight deviations from the norm create huge prices. The incentive to create a deviation, coupled with the relative ease of creating only the slightest deviation, is so great.

I will take as a given that the Walsh is an authentic Old Mill T206 card. I will not take as a given that the color of the ink was blue when it left the factory over 100 years ago. I would need some additional circumstantial evidence.

[bcornell]

This has been mentioned before, but some non-sport Old Mill cards have blue ink like the kind this T206 has. Take a look at the border around Walsh's portrait. That ink is also blue (not black), i.e., it's not just the back that's different.

If a typical hobby pattern holds, another one of these may appear. Many 'one-of-a-kind' items turn out not to be unique. We've seen this many times before. I'd be just as skeptical as some of the posters here if I hadn't held the card in my hand. But, I did, and I'm confident it's legitimate.


Bill

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bcornell

This has been mentioned before, but some non-sport Old Mill cards have blue ink like the kind this T206 has. Take a look at the border around Walsh's portrait. That ink is also blue (not black), i.e., it's not just the back that's different.

If a typical hobby pattern holds, another one of these may appear. Many 'one-of-a-kind' items turn out not to be unique. We've seen this many times before. I'd be just as skeptical as some of the posters here if I hadn't held the card in my hand. But, I did, and I'm confident it's legitimate.


Bill

Good points, Bill. Maybe Chris will provide us with a blow-up of the front borders of a 'normal' Walsh vs this one.

[caramelcard]

Hey Bill,

Which non sport Old Mills have the same color ink? In person, this looks like the same color as T42 Old Mills?

Rob

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by caramelcard

Hey Bill,

Which non sport Old Mills have the same color ink? In person, this looks like the same color as T42 Old Mills?

Rob

Hey Rob -

Right, the T42 (Series 2) "Bird Series" has the Old Mill blue backs. We were trying to find one at the National to compare to the T206, but couldn't locate one. Those don't sell for $30K each, in case anyone's wondering.


Bill

[caramelcard]

Here's a link for others to see.

http://www1.coe.neu.edu/~dan/T42/backs.html

Rob

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bcornell

Hey Rob -

Right, the T42 (Series 2) "Bird Series" has the Old Mill blue backs. We were trying to find one at the National to compare to the T206, but couldn't locate one. Those don't sell for $30K each, in case anyone's wondering.


Bill

How about 25k, Bill?