T206 ed walsh blue old mill sgc 30!

[bbcard1]

I could not rationalize it going above the cost of a Plank in similar grade, which is 30 K or so? I am sure someone else might point that it is less numerous. i would say it is less significant in my eyes, but both are pretty cool.

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by bbcard1

I could not rationalize it going above the cost of a Plank in similar grade, which is 30 K or so? I am sure someone else might point that it is less numerous. i would say it is less significant in my eyes, but both are pretty cool.

A sgc30 plank value is arround 30 to 40 k yes. But i think it is more near 40 . 30k for a sgc30 is a great deal.

[t206blogcom]

$20k-$50k? Give me a break. I wouldn't give you $50 for it.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by t206blogcom

$20k-$50k? Give me a break. I wouldn't give you $50 for it.

I'm still not sure how SGC could grade this being the only example known. I mean, what are they comparing it to? Especially when there are reprints with blue OM backs WITH factory #'s, and they don't say reprint.....in a recent thread there was a scan of a red OM back, factory# and didn't say reprint.

I don't know, I didn't see it in person, and am skeptical by nature-but I'd have to pass on it as well. More power to whoever buys it, let the force be with you

By the way-if it's not PB blue, what T206 blue would you compare this with? Piedmont? Uzit?

Sincerely, Clayton

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by bbcard1

I could not rationalize it going above the cost of a Plank in similar grade, which is 30 K or so? I am sure someone else might point that it is less numerous. i would say it is less significant in my eyes, but both are pretty cool.

Value is in the eye of the beholder, though. The guy that might possibly spend 30-50 K on this card probably already has a Plank, but I personally can't rationalize spending more then a couple grand on the card. I was guessing much higher because I'm sure, at the national, the seller already received offers between 5 and 10 K and didn't take any of them.

I can guarantee an offer was made at nationals for 30k+ cash. They are a board member also. If they want to make it know that's up to them. So Kevin if your thinking below that I'm not sure. You never know though. Good luck on the deal.

[obcmac]

This card still blows my mind. The front looks fake...flip it over, and you have a blue background...and that convinces people that it's real? A fake looking front and a previously unknown back? And people are talking 30K on it? I think this is the moment when the cool printing freak collectors officially go insane.

If you did a simple test of the text on the front...say take text from 50-100 t206's...and mix a couple good fakes in there...like the reback/fronted impossible combinations...and most skeptical collectors rank this card as the most likely to be fake. That's based on the front...and now how does a blue back make you feel? Better?

I also dislike the 'shade' variations...red to orange (except for the t210's), black to brown...etc. So yeah, a legit blue wouldn't impress me much. But if it were candy apple green, then I'd give 10K ;-) (patiently waiting for one to appear...I'll give it a month before one is "discovered")

Mac

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by obcmac

This card still blows my mind. The front looks fake...flip it over, and you have a blue background...and that convinces people that it's real? A fake looking front and a previously unknown back? And people are talking 30K on it? I think this is the moment when the cool printing freak collectors officially go insane.

A lot of us got a close look at it at the National and I didn't hear one person say it wasn't legitimate. As far as the mania over back collecting, I'm with you.


Bill

[Leon]

I am a back collector but not necessarily of a variant color (at least at the price level of the T206 color variations). I would guess this card to be 25k-40k in auction and 30k is probably close to the mark. Just a guess on my part though.

[obcmac]

Originally Posted by bcornell

A lot of us got a close look at it at the National and I didn't hear one person say it wasn't legitimate. As far as the mania over back collecting, I'm with you.


Bill

That astounds me really...don't know how to link the thread/pic of it or I would. The font on it is BLACK, it has artificially rounded corners, the color looks off...and it has a blue old mill back. Now tell me again why you would think it's real??? What I look for on fake t206's...font color/style, unrealistic wear, coloring,...and maybe a back that is known to exist. The Walsh fails all of these tests. I'm not saying it's a terrible fake...but I would say it's a fake on the front alone. 100 times out 100, I'd call it a fake. Then add a blue old mill back??? I need to get into the card printing business...

I think that something so unique requires an extra burden of proof. This card fails a normal test that I do on my $10-$15 t206's. No history behind the card, fails the most basic tests, looks amazingly similar to blue old mill repro's that are out there...and people want to say it's real?

Mac

[Jaybird]

Originally Posted by obcmac

That astounds me really...don't know how to link the thread/pic of it or I would. The font on it is BLACK, it has artificially rounded corners, the color looks off...and it has a blue old mill back. Now tell me again why you would think it's real??? What I look for on fake t206's...font color/style, unrealistic wear, coloring,...and maybe a back that is known to exist. The Walsh fails all of these tests. I'm not saying it's a terrible fake...but I would say it's a fake on the front alone. 100 times out 100, I'd call it a fake. Then add a blue old mill back??? I need to get into the card printing business...

I think that something so unique requires an extra burden of proof. This card fails a normal test that I do on my $10-$15 t206's. No history behind the card, fails the most basic tests, looks amazingly similar to blue old mill repro's that are out there...and people want to say it's real?

Mac

Have you held it in your hand?