I was the victim of shill bidding on ebay!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by atx840

Was thinking maybe a fan as he tends to have great cards. Thanks!

40 bid retractions gives me a lot of pause. Ask yourself how many you have ever retracted?

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Leon

40 bid retractions gives me a lot of pause. Ask yourself how many you have ever retracted?

Yep, I forgot to use the sarcasm font. In 13 years on ebay I can't remember a single bid retraction.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Yep, I forgot to use the sarcasm font. In 13 years on ebay I can't remember a single bid retraction.

Me too. Been there, I think 13 1/2 yrs, and can't remember one though I could be forgetting. This seems to be a reoccurring problem with the large ebay sellers. Same thing happened to Wonka the other night. I hooked him up with that large ebay sellers owner so they could chat about it. That bidder had something like 22 retractions in the last month and seemed to be running John up. Maybe they were safety bids that were no longer needed?

[jbbama]

This is becoming an all to common occurrence on Ebay, i questioned a seller recently, i was confronted with threats of legal action.

[calvindog]

What's the problem? 93% of the bidder's business is with this seller? And 40 bid retractions in the past 6 months? Let me guess: the seller gets really high prices for his cards too.

Gee, that's a head scratcher. Let me go ask Ray Charles. Yup, he said he could see the problem with this seller too.

[Matthew H]

You guys are being unfair, how do you know these weren't "safety bids" by a consignor?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Matthew H

You guys are being unfair, how do you know these weren't "safety bids" by a consignor?

No shi*. That is what we are talking about. It is possibly the consignor or a friend/associate of a consignor. And the fact that, it seems, some sellers overlook these kinds of shenanigans is what is alarming, or actually, that they happen at all. I am not saying it's the sellers fault to start with. No one can control bids, for the most part. (well, sort of)

[Peter_Spaeth]

if you place a snipe with 5 seconds to go, it's going to be a tad hard for someone to run you up, top you, and retract.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

if you place a snipe with 5 seconds to go, it's going to be a tad hard for someone to run you up, top you, and retract.

Explain all of the retractions then. Who knows why but it's happening. I can only surmise that the GREAT VOLUME of retractions is not for good and legitimate reasons. Either that or all of these bidders are really stupid. (and that is not the case, imo)

BTW, I believe some of these retractions are to see how high the max bids are at...and once found out the bidder retracts the bid.