Brooklyn CDV

[bmarlowe1]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Mark- in the mammoth plate photo pictured in The National Pastime, catcher Norton is on the far right. In the CdV he is on the far left. So players changed position during this photo shoot.

Barry - Yes, that's what I was referring to in post #3 above. The image in National Pastime (I don't have it handy right now) is probably the same as the one at HoF. The ID's I gave above do match the image at the top of this thread.

[oldjudge]

It has not been consigned to REA, Heritage, Legendary or Goodwin. Perhaps it is at Mile High or SCP. Those are the only other major auction houses I can think of.

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

Barry - Yes, that's what I was referring to in post #3 above. The image in National Pastime (I don't have it handy right now) is probably the same as the one at HoF. The ID's I gave above do match the image at the top of this thread.

The image in the National Pastime is in fact the one at the NBL. It is not a period image, as the caligraphy on the mount refers to the Atlantics being champions as late as 1870. I am aware of only one copy in mammoth plate format where the image is period.

The image, besides depicting arguably the most significant team of the 1860's, is extraordinary in the sense that it is the only example I can think of where the studio appears to have created the CdV and mammoth plate from different shoots. Assuming this is the case, the CdV is a first generation photo (i.e., printed from the original negative, instead of being a photo of the mammoth plate). Should someday a period mammoth plate of the precise player configuation as appears in the CdV turn up, then this previous statement will have been incorrect.

What is also interesting is that the mammoth plate is a salt print. I'd be curious to know if this CdV is a salt print or an albumen print. Should it be the former, then it will be the first CdV of which I am aware that is not an albumen print.

[barrysloate]

Never heard of a CdV salt print. That would indeed be interesting.

[GaryPassamonte]

Corey,
What is your opinion about the image depicted in Rucker's book on pg. 8 and credited to the Library of Congress? It appears that the image is CdV sized. It even uses the same photo as the CdV with the same photo credits. Interestingly the photo credits are on the left side of the image while the CdV has the credits on the right.

[benjulmag]

Gary,

Here is the image of the copy in the Library of Congress.

It appears to have been created by adhering the CdV to a larger mount. The fact that the studio credit is on the left as opposed to the right I do not believe to be significant, but merely a manifestation of the studio mount being in the reverse direction whent the photo was adhered to it.

I might add that the Library of Congress describes the image as being an albumen photo.

[GaryPassamonte]

I've never seen the complete piece before. Rucker says that the entire piece is 5 x 7. That would make the center image with mount CdV size.