Original PB Pack Opened?

[rdwyer]

T206 - 1909-1911
T205 - 1911 Only

[NYHighlanderFan]

Considering how and who it was acquired, it will remain. And as far as how many cards came in a pack, who knows! But there are 2 included here.

[packs]

Why would the pack have two cards?

[NYHighlanderFan]

Who the heck knows! I have read stories on this very forum about upwards of four getting pulled out of a bag! I could keep the cards & just sell the bag. But I feel it should all stick together!!

And as far as the prices I've set as minimums...well I would be happy to discuss values & scarcity of the individual items. I am always trying to educate myself on this science! I am purely going on what I saw at past conventions, auctions & this past National.

[packs]

Well it seems like a fair question. The only time someone posted an opened Piedmont pack photo with the shell case it had only one card inside.

[rdwyer]

Jon Canfield? Calling Jon Canfield. I believe there were no cards distributed in 1912 pouches. I also remember 4 cards per pouch also.

[NYHighlanderFan]

Yes...very legit question! And I appreciate the questions!

Somebody emailed me yesterday & said there was another one online not long ago. It sounded like it didn't have the bear either.

[teetwoohsix]

Hi Joe-

I was just wondering if the back of the red PB coupon had any writing, or is it blank?

This Piedmont coupon had a list on the back of prizes you could claim by mailing in X-amount of coupons. I was just wondering if the PB coupon was similar in this fashion. Granted, this Piedmont coupon expired June 1909, prior to the T206 run (I believe).

Sincerely, Clayton

* side note- around the edges of the backside of the Piedmont coupon you can see they used an invisible type of ink? with the ATC initials- pretty cool for back in those days !!!

Also, a special thanks to the wonderful board member who sent this to me, I still really appreciate it !!!!

[ctownboy]

Excuse my ignorance but weren't cards printed for only certain factories (because of legal or tax reasons)? And weren't those cards supposed to have that factory number and district printed on the back?

If so, then if this pack (bag) was produced in Ohio then shouldn't the cards, if they originally came with the pack, have an Ohio factory and district number on them?

David

[Wite3]

David,
The two t205s were from the right factory. They both say Factory 6 dist. o (for ohio).

The cards were first put out in 1911 but there have been examples found in packs with the 1912 tax stamp (and possibly later). They used the cards until they were completely gone.

Also, some packs contained more than one card. I know the t206s often had more than one (especially in the hindu, old mill cards)...and I have seen a tolstoi pack opened that contained two t206s and a t80 (military series).

Joshua

[NYHighlanderFan]

I will take a better photo of the cards backs and the back of the red coupon! I'll post it directly to the ebay listing...within the hour!

I can tell you off the top of my head the coupon back doesn't have the list of gifts like the Piedmont coupon does. It might say something like the coupons with 1908 expiration dates are still valid through 2013.

[NYHighlanderFan]

Okay the new picture is listed! And Joshua's post about the Tolstoi pack...very interesting. It makes me think about the QC inside the tobacco factories...and the women or immigration laborers they had stuffing these packs. I think they grabbed what they want & threw them inside. I also don't think they were too concerned about corners of the cards either! HA!

If they only knew what they would be worth years down the road. These poor people were stuffing packs literally with thousands of dollars & didn't even know it!

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by NYHighlanderFan

I will take a better photo of the cards backs and the back of the red coupon! I'll post it directly to the ebay listing...within the hour!

I can tell you off the top of my head the coupon back doesn't have the list of gifts like the Piedmont coupon does. It might say something like the coupons with 1908 expiration dates are still valid through 2013.

Thanks, I appreciate it. I just checked it out.
I'd love to see more coupons from other brands, if anyone has any (maybe for another thread?). Anyhow- thanks again.

Sincerely, Clayton

[NYHighlanderFan]

Cerberus! How's everything out west? Did I tell you...the engagement fell through!! I am a free man...living it up down in the Pittsburgh area still.

That pack is gorgeous...the tax stamp is screaming "rip me open"!

[Cerberus]

Joe:

I'm happy to sell you my unopened PB pack for 12k. Feel free to pm me, and we'll make payment arrangements.

Michael