This is the problem with grading...

[barrysloate]

Thanks Dan, and I really think it is no more than a quality control issue. Too much is at stake financially to be this careless. When a grader has the ability to turn a $50 card into a $3000 card, he really needs to be absolutely certain he can justify the grade. Frankly in this situation I don't think he can. It was plainly and simply a mistake.

So what's being done about this? Nothing is all I hear. Just shut your mouths and accept it is what I get out of this. Am I wrong here

[Ease]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

So what's being done about this? Nothing is all I hear. Just shut your mouths and accept it is what I get out of this. Am I wrong here

I was wondering the same thing myself...

[T206Collector]

Threads like this ironically encourage resubmissions -- gee, maybe I can get a 10,too! -- and probably up PSA's bottom line.

Valuing PSA 10s so high is a market-based phenomenon. Until collectors stop looking at 10s like they're finding hidden gold, why would PSA change a thing?

If I'm PSA, I apologize for quality control issues, say all the right things publicly. And then go right back to doing the same darn thing.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If having a T206 Honus Wagner in an 8 holder that a high percentage of the hobby thinks is trimmed has not hurt PSA, then having an overgraded Art Shell in a 10 holder is certainly not going to hurt PSA. I don't think PSA is going to do anything, and if it does, it will simply point to its guarantee and say that if the owner has a question he can always have the card reviewed by the graders.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If having a T206 Honus Wagner in an 8 holder that a high percentage of the hobby thinks is trimmed has not hurt PSA, then having an overgraded Art Shell in a 10 holder is certainly not going to hurt PSA. I don't think PSA is going to do anything, and if it does, it will simply point to its guarantee and say that if the owner has a question he can always have the card reviewed by the graders.

Agreed. I think the auction house which is running the suspect cards probably has more to be concerned about in terms of bad publicity but they don't seem to mind much either.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

So what's being done about this? Nothing is all I hear. Just shut your mouths and accept it is what I get out of this. Am I wrong here

So what is your answer? What do you propose? You want change, great. Lead the charge.

[barrysloate]

Peter- overgraded cards never ever get resubmitted. And undergraded cards always do, sometimes more than once. That's the grading game.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Peter- overgraded cards never ever get resubmitted. And undergraded cards always do, sometimes more than once. That's the grading game.

I don't think that's true at all. Many people care about the card. I certainly have sent in cards I thought were overgraded, with some success.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I don't think that's true at all. Many people care about the card. I certainly have sent in cards I thought were overgraded, with some success.

You sent them in to get a lower grade?

[barrysloate]

I would say the number of people looking to get a high grade card lowered is very small indeed.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

You sent them in to get a lower grade?

No to get them to buy it back/compensate me.