Wagner graded sgc A already at $180K!! WOW!!

btkpath · #1 08-24-2012, 09:24 AM

I guess my take on the matter is a little different.

I think people might be a little skittish. When the Wagner PSA 8 sold for $3M, it dragged the price of other lesser Wagners up, which would be a normal response. I know that there has always been controversy regarding that card being trimmed (and that is not the point here), but with the recent indictments of Mastro and the potential involvement of PSA in the matter, I wonder if the price and "cache" of "The Card" will soften, thus having a softening effect on the price of all other Wagners. This is the first Wagner to sell since the recent allegations surfaced (I believe) against Mastro, PSA and "The Card". It will be interesting to see the price of the next Wagner that sells.

Just my opinion.

jimross · #2 08-24-2012, 09:56 AM

Steve,

It is stated on their auction disclaimer.... they are allow to bid up to the level such that the next (real bidder) bid would pass the reserve price.

It is not a rumor or myth.

rainier2004 · #3 08-24-2012, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimross

It is stated on their auction disclaimer.... they are allow to bid up to the level such that the next (real bidder) bid would pass the reserve price.

That's horrible! I guess I missed that in my 1 and only auction...never even would have bid in the first place. This whole thread would be derailed if I asked my next question. Thanks, back to "The Card"...I am also curious as to what the next one well sell for.

SetBuilder · #4 08-24-2012, 12:21 PM

I'd pay to have the card restored and borders added from a donor T206 card.

The cardboard equivalent of a kidney donation.

t206hound · #5 08-24-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

I'd pay to have the card restored and borders added from a donor T206 card.

The cardboard equivalent of a kidney donation.

I think you'd lose money on that endeavor:
http://robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2011/3.html

FrankWakefield · #6 08-24-2012, 10:30 PM

I once held that very card in the palm of my hand, sans any slab, holder, loader, sleeve, or anything... And when I held and beheld it, I too thought of sacrificing a good common card so its borders could be merged with that Wagner by one of the good reconstructionists. Not to scam anyone, and not because it might be worth more (it really isn't about the money with these old cards), but because it would result in a nice looking, presentable example of the icon of our little hobby.

tbob · #7 08-24-2012, 10:43 PM

I agree with Frank. I've seen how comic books which are restored and have great eye appeal sell for more than lower graded non-restored copies and I think the day is coming that we might see restored scarce and expensive cards which are graded authentic sell for more than PSA 1s and perhaps some 2s. I know a lot of collectors here will scoff at that but it is a possibility. Kevin S. has shown his handiwork at card restoration and it is amazing what he and others can do with the right card and the right tools.

Jlighter · #8 08-24-2012, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t206hound

I think you'd lose money on that endeavor:
http://robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2011/3.html

That card at REA was in worse condition before restoration then the Goodwin example.

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