Wagner graded sgc A already at $180K!! WOW!!

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

scott- not sure what you mean.....

I was wrong. I thought I had read this in the Goodwin description, but obviously I read it somewhere else. The Goodwin description simply describes the big price that the other 'missing borders' card brought, but doesn't talk about further altering this one. My bad.

If I can find the original source of my comment, I'll post it - it described the trimmed card that was missing part of the back, which was rebuilt, drastically increasing the card's value.

[jimross]

The hammer price was actually under estimate. Estimate was $300k. It sold for a bargain

[CMIZ5290]

I still don't get it.....

[jimross]

Goodwin says even trimmed Auth T206 Wagner would go for $1M in 10 yrs... u still don't get it?

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by jimross

Goodwin says even trimmed Auth T206 Wagner would go for $1M in 10 yrs... u still don't get it?

It's all moot, isn't the world going to end December 21st, 2012??

[sports-rings]

according to my records, the last "Authentic" Wagner to sell at auction, was in November 2010. It was auctioned off by heritage. With the buyer's premium, the card sold for $262,900.00. In my opinion the Goodwin card was in better shape and presented better.

There was a lot more media stories about the Heritage card than this time.

Do the readers here feel the market may have peaked for lower-end Wagner cards and the price of "Authentics" and PSA-1 Wagners are coming down?

Or is it a reflection on bigger auction houses with more resources achieving better results than smaller auction houses?

I had a few high end items in an auction house recently and was very disappointed with their marketing, and PR-work. They seemed to do very little effort in getting the word out about my items and other items in their auction. I believe the prices realized reflected their failures and lack of effort.

Was the lack of coverage outside our hobby a factor in this Wagner selling for so much less?

[glynparson]

according to my records, the last "Authentic" Wagner to sell at auction, was in November 2010. It was auctioned off by heritage. With the buyer's premium, the card sold for $262,900.00. In my opinion the Goodwin card was in better shape and presented better. 

There was a lot more media stories about the Heritage card than this time. 

Do the readers here feel the market may have peaked for lower-end Wagner cards and the price of "Authentics" and PSA-1 Wagners are coming down? 

Or is it a reflection on bigger auction houses with more resources achieving better results than smaller auction houses?

I had a few high end items in an auction house recently and was very disappointed with their marketing, and PR-work. They seemed to do very little effort in getting the word out about my items and other items in their auction. I believe the prices realized reflected their failures and lack of effort. 

Was the lack of coverage outside our hobby a factor in this Wagner selling for so much less? 

No I think it was because the other ones proceeds were going to charity.

[jimross]

I would not compare HA with Goodwin. The hammer price for that nun Wagner was way too much and the original winner knows it after the "hyper" that's why he never paid for it. HA contacted a wealthy collector and he picked up the tap, I am pretty sure that wealthy collector thinks all the money from that nun Wagner sale would go for church renovation so it was kind of like a charity thing.

BTW, did i mention HA allows themselves to bid on their own auctions??

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by jimross

BTW, did i mention HA allows themselves to bid on their own auctions??

Im still getting accustomed to larger auctions houses, but is there a way to prove this? I dislike HA very much and have never received such poor customer service in 27 years collecting.

Steve Suckow