former ebay head Gonzalez purported said psa and jsa suck according to post.

[ss]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hang on, I will go in the other room and ask her .

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[danc]

Travis, you assume people love your threads and give you love because you are "beloved" within, and that simply isn't the case. People just like arguing with you. Don't confuse the two.

We get it, you don't like PSA/DNA or JSA because they make mistakes on Boxing autographs. Do you have more knowledge in that avenue then them? Perhaps. Probably. But the bottom line is that with all due respect, nobody knows who you are outside of the Net54, which is a baseball forum, for the most part. A Randy Turpin autograph with a Travis LOA will bring little attention outside of saying "Who is this Travis guy?".

TPA's (PSA/DNA and JSA) work. That's why people use them. We (the new collector) have been programmed and re-designed to understand that the certificate of authenticity is in fact key (who really cares about what the signature looks like, just look at the Art Shell debacle on the card side) and this is the essential part of the collecting world.

"Does it come with an LOA from PSA/DNA?" is the most often heard words spoken at shows. That's just a fact. Love it or hate it, complaining constantly isn't going to matter, but if it makes you feel like you made some sort of a difference because you type and type and type with an intense fear of the SHIFT key. :-)

I got in contact with John and I asked him if he was interested in commenting through me on his behalf on this thread and he politely declined.

A web site took private comments and made them public with a clear agenda, and then rehashed (which is fine, if you like the message and we know you do) in this thread. Nobody is ever going to confuse anybody on these forums for Woodward and Bernstein.

And I like curling...it's like chess on ice.

DanC

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by danc

Travis, you assume people love your threads and give you love because you are "beloved" within, and that simply isn't the case. People just like arguing with you. Don't confuse the two.

We get it, you don't like PSA/DNA or JSA because they make mistakes on Boxing autographs. Do you have more knowledge in that avenue then them? Perhaps. Probably. But the bottom line is that with all due respect, nobody knows who you are outside of the Net54, which is a baseball forum, for the most part. A Randy Turpin autograph with a Travis LOA will bring little attention outside of saying "Who is this Travis guy?".

TPA's work. That's why people use them. We (the new collector) have been programmed and re-designed to understand that the certificate of authenticity is in fact key (who really cares about what the signature looks like, just look at the Art Shell debacle on the card side) and this is the essential part of the collecting world.

"Does it come with an LOA from PSA/DNA?" is the most often heard words spoken at shows. That's just a fact. Love it or hate it, complaining constantly isn't going to matter, but if it makes you feel like you made some sort of a difference because you type and type and type with an intense fear of the SHIFT key. :-)

I got in contact with John and I asked him if he was interested in commenting through me on his behalf on this thread and he politely declined.

A web site took private comments and made them public with a clear agenda, and then rehashed (which is fine, if you like the message and we know you do) in this thread. Nobody is ever going to confuse anybody on these forums for Woodward and Bernstein.

And I like curling...it's like chess on ice.

DanC

Well written, Danny.

[shelly]

I have no Idea who Danny C is but if he likes that broom sport from up north he can't really be a bad guy. He must be from one of those little cities in the US that only get Canadian tv. I have to say that some of the most beautiful Oriental women do Canadian broadcasting.

[RichardSimon]

I think I know who DanC is Shelly . He is one of those weird guys who would like curling .
I do believe he is an autograph guy with a nice but smallish ebay store. . (with zero PSA LOA's I believe).
I just want to say to him and others here, that maybe at shows autograph dealers do get asked for PSA LOA's but having sold many thousands of autographs in my career I have only been asked for a PSA LOA only twice. And both times when I explained why I don't have one the (brand new) client bought the item anyway.

[shelly]

Richard, then you agree that life without tpa's would be just fine. I would also thing that people would save a great deal of money.
I will even go out on a limb and say that before all this is over many of the people on here might find that fact to be true.
As far as the kid from Prince Edward Island what else do you have to do there but watch tv and fish and have a small Ebay store.

[danc]

Richard, I don't use TPA's of any sorts as you know and have managed just fine, as you have as well.

But people who need assistance in a complicated collecting genre often need help and this is their safety net because not everyone is specifically educated like yourself or "Boom Boom" Travis. The hobby is so used to using someone to determine whether something is legitimate or not, a new world without TPA's may open up even more avenue's for fraud and unsure collectors will lose interest (especially if two are discredited).

Rich, your clientele deal with you because they don't need to go to a TPA, but how about you leave your penthouse and go to a show at least once every ten years and witness what I witness? :-)

Shelly, wtf...

DanC