ISA Crossovers

[srs1a]

A quick look at this eBAY store tells me everything I need to know -- http://stores.ebay.com/The-Miracle-S...id=p4340.l2563

While they have PSA/SGC cards, they also have ISA cards and at very large discounts relative to recent sales of PSA/SGC cards in the same grade. If one assumes that these guys are in business to make money, they would have already crossed them if they could. More likely, they've already crossed them from PSA/SGC into higher grade ISA holders and are trying to make that side of the cross work.

[Peter_Spaeth]

That's quite a website. Incidentally, the PSA 10 Jeter rookie (a mere $40,000 buys it!) has a funny looking bottom edge (in my opinion), and there isn't the usual amount of space between his shoe and the edge.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-DEREK-J...item5d319328d0

[cockrellcollection]

I once tried a cross a higher grade ISA to SGC and it came back trimmed. Sure I didn't pay as much for the ISA card but now I know its not worth as much either.

[acramos1]

Originally Posted by cockrellcollection

I once tried a cross a higher grade ISA to SGC and it came back trimmed. Sure I didn't pay as much for the ISA card but now I know its not worth as much either.

Did you crack it out first? Or did you send the card still in the holder?

[acramos1]

I'm still just hearing people saying bad things about ISA who have probably never even dealt with them. Can we please hear about some actual experiences?

[acramos1]

We have a lot of views, now we just need more posts!

[ctownboy]

acramos1,

Here is a novel idea. If YOU want an experience to talk about why don't YOU go get five cards and do an experiment.

Why not go out and buy five cards from different companies and eras and send them in and see what happens? Why not buy a trimmed T206, then, untrimmed cards of say a 1933 Goudey, a 1952 Topps, a star card from the 1960's and a rookie from the 1970's.

Scan the front and backs of all five cards, save the scans and post them on this board in a new thread. Then, send the cards in to SGC and see what grades they get. Once you get them back, post the scans.

Next, crack them out and send them in to PSA and see what grades they get. Once you get them back, post the scans.

Crack them out and then send them to ISA. Once you get them back, post the scans.

Then You (and everybody else) will have some data points to compare and talk about.

David

[Clutch-Hitter]

Originally Posted by srs1a

A quick look at this eBAY store tells me everything I need to know -- http://stores.ebay.com/The-Miracle-S...id=p4340.l2563

While they have PSA/SGC cards, they also have ISA cards and at very large discounts relative to recent sales of PSA/SGC cards in the same grade. If one assumes that these guys are in business to make money, they would have already crossed them if they could. More likely, they've already crossed them from PSA/SGC into higher grade ISA holders and are trying to make that side of the cross work.

Good points, but does that also mean the remaining did not make the cross or just have not been submitted yet? It'll be a tough go for them, even if legit, since so many post SGC/PSA companies have been downright pathetic.

[Clutch-Hitter]

OK, members with very, very few posts are chiming in due to the extraordinary significance of this.

I would never, ever submit a new company's holder, still slabbed, to either SGC or PSA....or Beckett. I would be confident in my conspiracy theory that the card would return in a lesser and/or altered grade, not make the cross, no matter the circumstances. You have to crack it out first.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Clutch-Hitter

OK, members with very, very few posts are chiming in due to the extraordinary significance of this.

I would never, ever submit a new company's holder, still slabbed, to either SGC or PSA....or Beckett. I would be confident in my conspiracy theory that the card would return in a lesser and/or altered grade, not make the cross, no matter the circumstances. You have to crack it out first.

There will always be that perception of a bias when a card is in another companies holder when submitted for a Crossover. I don't know about PSA but I think SGC and Beckett would be fair regardless of a slab or not. Just my (biased) opinion.