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[botn]

And what about the tens of millions of dollars spent on high grade cards in PSA and SGC holders, that if broken out and assessed honestly, would come back with an A?

Don't think anyone here feels shilling bidding is great for the hobby. And I agree you have to start somewhere, e.g. the Mastro indictment, but here is a thread addressing questionable activity by someone in the hobby and you have to derail it and sort of denounce it because it pales in comparison to shill bidding. Shill bidding pales in comparison to the crimes committed in trimming cards and slabbing them.

If you are a hobby crusader then why would you take this approach?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by botn

And what about the tens of millions of dollars spent on high grade cards in PSA and SGC holders, that if broken out and assessed honestly, would come back with an A?

Don't think anyone here feels shilling bidding is great for the hobby. And I agree you have to start somewhere, e.g. the Mastro indictment, but here is a thread addressing questionable activity by someone in the hobby and you have to derail it and sort of denounce it because it pales in comparison to shill bidding. Shill bidding pales in comparison to the crimes committed in trimming cards and slabbing them.

If you are a hobby crusader then why would you take this approach?

How do you know I'm not concerned with trimmed cards and other fraud in the hobby? And who said I was a "hobby crusader?" I just was tired of getting ripped off and spoke out about it. And caught a lot of grief from the shillers' co-conspirators for daring to open my mouth. Did you forget? Instead of ripping me for not doing everything to clean up the hobby maybe acknowledge that at least I've done something.