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View Poll Results: Wagner or not the Wagner.. that is the question.
Yes, this is Honus Wagner 36 52.94%
No, it can't be Honus and I will list why I think so in the thread 32 47.06%
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:58 AM
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I am guessing this is a different day right? Maybe not, I do not not know? Definitely some differences...

None of the fans sitting on the field & different umpire. Those things could change during a game though - I guess.
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:12 PM
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Any chance this is Warren Gill? I ask this based on the fact that the photo from eBay posted in message #8 appears to have "Gill at Bat" written on the back, Gill did bat in the second game that day as a pinch hitter, and, from the attached photo, he appears to have similar features to the batter, including a large nose and connected earlobes.

On Baseball Reference, Gill is also listed as a right handed batter, but, with only 27 games in his career, I suppose it would be possible that he was actually a switch hitter. Or maybe he sensed that his career was about over and decided to do it for a lark.

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Old 08-10-2012, 07:40 PM
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[QUOTE=jsousa1213;1024592]Any chance this is Warren Gill? I ask this based on the fact that the photo from eBay posted in message #8 appears to have "Gill at Bat" written on the back, Gill did bat in the second game that day as a pinch hitter, and, from the attached photo, he appears to have similar features to the batter, including a large nose and connected earlobes.

This seems like a reasonable question/assumption. Bresnahan is correctly listed on the back of the photo, so is there any reason to doubt that this is Gil batting?

I think it is a reasonable enough question that at the very least Gil needs to be eliminated.

Nice catch on that writing on the bottom of the photo - I only looked at the back briefly.
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:35 PM
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What's funny is that I identified Gill in that photo posted above for Library of Congress, but at this point I can't say whether the batter is or is not Gill. I have another nice clear shot of Gill from the front, but no profiles.

The only way is to try to compare Gill's right ear from the front to the mostly back of the batter's ear. Not easy.
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:37 PM
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Mark, are you a detective?
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:51 PM
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Great work Mark!!! This has been a great thread!
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:06 PM
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Mark, are you a detective?
-Jake - no I'm not. I haven't even been able to find my cell phone since Tuesday.

For those who don't know me, here is my usual shameless plug. I write a quarterly photo newsletter (Mystery Photo Supplement) for SABR's Pictorial History Committee that is mostly about identifying what is depicted in early baseball photos (direct links below). They started in April 2008 (top), and the latest was March 2012 (bottom). The first couple of issues were pretty wimpy, but I think they improved a lot over time. Some of the recent ones have been perhaps just a bit controversial.

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Great thread, I'm learning a lot!!! No expert, and don't know if it means anything, but the extent of the socks that are showing between the questioned photo (#1) and that of Wagner batting RH (#2) also appears to be quite different which I guess could change during a game.

In photo#1 the length of the socks showing are approximately equal for both legs, whereas in photo#2, Wagner's sock on his right leg appears much shorter than on his left leg.
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