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Originally Posted by barrysloate

Greg- I'm not following your reference to me.

Post #34, Barry. Not that you had to pick sides in this battle but your post was not one that I would have thought someone with your reputation in the hobby would have made. Like Leon and Scott, it would seem that you have conducted yourself in your many years in the business with a great deal of integrity. I would think that you would have taken a harder stance on some of the sales tactics that were used on SAH.

I agree there is a distinction between ethical and illegal but when either is violated neither one should come without consequences.

[barrysloate]

Thanks Greg, but I didn't take a harder stance because I have never met Ken Goldin and never did any business with him. I do remember hearing stories in the past, but didn't recall the details until I read this thread. I did look at the videos Wonka linked and they were nothing short of appalling. Mr. Goldin has his work cut out to restore the public trust. But as has been pointed out, if his auction has good stuff in it nobody will give a damn about anything except how to win it.

[sportscardpete]

Those videos were hilarious! I can't take this thread seriously.

I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt; we'll see how the auctions go before I denounce him...

I will say that I'm looking forward to reading some of the auction descriptions...

[edhans]

It is easy for you to write off what happened at SAH sitting on piles of cash you made by repeatedly misrepresenting product. Maybe without youtube videos you can forget what you did but what about those who you stuck with worthless junk cards? Many of those people are fathers of sons and daughters, as you are now. You are now coming back to the very hobby you deceived and are asking for us to support you. How do we know if 10 years from now we will not read your posts about your auction company in which you state, “That is how it was done”?

+1

I don't know you, Ken, and have no personal grievance with you, since I wasn't niave enough to buy the garbage you hawked on SAH. Even though no crime was committed, what took place there was nothing short of theft. How could you have allowed your name to be used in connection with this venture? I don't see how the hobby can sweep your past under the rug and pretend it never happened. It seems to me that you still have a great deal of apologizing to do, especially to those people who squandered thousands of dollars on worthless crap, in part, perhaps, because you endorsed it.

[calvindog]

Damn, tough room -- tougher on Ken than ever on Mastro and Allen -- guys who have been indicted for ripping off every one on this forum. Gee, wonder why that is?

Of course, I agree with the criticism that's been laid out here.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Damn, tough room -- tougher on Ken than ever on Mastro and Allen -- guys who have been indicted for ripping off every one on this forum. Gee, wonder why that is?

Of course, I agree with the criticism that's been laid out here.

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[calvindog]

Ken has gotten more criticism on this one thread than Mastro and Doug have in the past five years (excluding from me of course). You can thrown in Goodwin and JP too with Mastro and Doug. Are there really no posters here who made money with Ken and want to do all they can to shut up the criticism of him? Comeon, great guys! Step it up!