NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used > Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-08-2012, 06:52 PM
southcrawler southcrawler is offline
member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2
Default Translation of hidden letter

Many thanks for the kind words, Jim - I really appreciate that!

Regarding to toybulldog's photo/letter it is quite obvious that 1) the dedication on that one is nearly identical to the one on Jim's beautiful exemplar (the only differences being that "freundlichen" was abbreviated to "freundl." and Max added "gewidmet von" which only means "dedicated by"). 2) Much to my surprise, I have to admit that the quality of google's translation service has actually significantly improved within the past five years - the translation they have offered is indeed muuuuch more accurate than the other one which is...well, let's say "choppy" in order to avoid any kind of verbal slander towards the guys who programmed it...

Nevertheless, I guess a more accurate and correct translation wouldn't do any harm:

"Dear Mr Woller!

Thanks a lot for your kind letter.
I am gladly willing to accept the charge of referee in your dispute, but have to tell you in advance that you will have to suffer a knock-out defeat. The crucial punch was a right-handed one, about ten inches long [it appears as if he is referring to a cut that had ended a fight (of his?)] and invisible for the majority of the audience.
Enclosed you will find a photo of me.
Hoping you haven't bet [on the boxer who had lost the fight] I wish all the best to you and your discordant friends.

Yours sincerely

Max Schmeling"

Would be really interesting to unravel the mystery surrounding the fight both - Max and the person asking him for his advice - are referring to. First I thought it could have been a defeat of Schmeling himself, but as far as I know, he hadn't lost for almost a year in January 1929, so maybe it's more plausible to assume that the fight in question was one of his victories?

Dirk
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-09-2012, 10:10 AM
toybulldog's Avatar
toybulldog toybulldog is offline
Mark O.
Mark Og.ren
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Schenectady, NY
Posts: 99
Default Translation of hidden letter

Quote:
Originally Posted by southcrawler View Post
Many thanks for the kind words, Jim - I really appreciate that!

Regarding to toybulldog's photo/letter it is quite obvious that 1) the dedication on that one is nearly identical to the one on Jim's beautiful exemplar (the only differences being that "freundlichen" was abbreviated to "freundl." and Max added "gewidmet von" which only means "dedicated by"). 2) Much to my surprise, I have to admit that the quality of google's translation service has actually significantly improved within the past five years - the translation they have offered is indeed muuuuch more accurate than the other one which is...well, let's say "choppy" in order to avoid any kind of verbal slander towards the guys who programmed it...

Nevertheless, I guess a more accurate and correct translation wouldn't do any harm:

"Dear Mr Woller!

Thanks a lot for your kind letter.
I am gladly willing to accept the charge of referee in your dispute, but have to tell you in advance that you will have to suffer a knock-out defeat. The crucial punch was a right-handed one, about ten inches long [it appears as if he is referring to a cut that had ended a fight (of his?)] and invisible for the majority of the audience.
Enclosed you will find a photo of me.
Hoping you haven't bet [on the boxer who had lost the fight] I wish all the best to you and your discordant friends.

Yours sincerely

Max Schmeling"

Would be really interesting to unravel the mystery surrounding the fight both - Max and the person asking him for his advice - are referring to. First I thought it could have been a defeat of Schmeling himself, but as far as I know, he hadn't lost for almost a year in January 1929, so maybe it's more plausible to assume that the fight in question was one of his victories?

Dirk
Dirk,
Thanks, this is most helpful. My best take is that perhaps Schmeling is referring to his bout just four days prior to this dated letter. Schmeling fought Austrian born Pietro Corri on January 21, 1929 at the Laurel Garden Arena in Newark, NJ knocking Corri out in 1:10 of the first round. It appears the person Schmeling has sent the letter to is having a dispute with a friend as to how the knockout of Corri occured. The recipient of the letter has written Schmeling prior asking him to be the referee in the dispute and has given both his and his friend's version of how the knockout occured. Schmeling is telling the recipient of the letter that his version is wrong and that he is going to suffer a knockout defeat in the dispute. Schmeling goes on to mention that the punch that caused the knockout was a short ten inch right-handed blow hence was hard to see by the majority of the audience. Schmeling then tells the recipient he has included the signed photo and hopes that he did not place a bet on his version of the dispute wishing best to him and his disagreeable friend/s.

With Schmeling's opponent sporting a 4-21-2 record at the time of this bout I could see him getting knocked out by a short ten-inch punch early in the first round. Most likely there for the modest payday rather than an actual expectation of winning. Also with Schmeling not really gaining any recognition or having any kind of a following until his very next bout against Johnny Risko, I can understand the quick response just four days later. All speculation of course but makes sense to me.

Best,
Mark O.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Earliest Collectibles of Baseball Hall of Famers bcbgcbrcb Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 148 05-14-2018 08:12 PM
FS: Autographed cards Hubbell, Sewell, 1963 LaRussa, etc. fkw 1920 to 1949 Baseball cards- B/S/T 1 06-10-2012 07:17 AM
Grove autographed 3x5 & Musial Autographed Photo oskafagus Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T 1 01-24-2012 12:21 PM
rogers peet max schmeling andybecker Everything Else, Football, Non-Sports etc.. B/S/T 1 01-21-2011 11:26 AM
1956 Adventure Max Schmeling. Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 7 07-28-2002 05:27 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:07 PM.


ebay GSB