A possible solution for the PSA 8 T206 Wagner?

[Peter_Spaeth]

So the grader, Bill Hughes, was lying (or was misquoted)? Interesting. Hall is probably taking a chance that whatever Bill Mastro has to say about it won't see the light of day.

[botn]

I have always said it and caught sh!t about it for years--once the card is graded it is 100% legit. That is why grading companies can offer a guarantee of a buy back. They never HAVE to use it.

Too bad it is not an option to break out the card and have it examined by a panel of "disinterested" graders. But then you void the all important guarantee.

Shill bidding is a blessing compared to the things that go on behind the plastic. FBI has put their resources in the wrong place.

[Peter_Spaeth]

To quote Wallace Stevens, "What we said of it became a part of what it is."

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by botn

I have always said it and caught sh!t about it for years--once the card is graded it is 100% legit. That is why grading companies can offer a guarantee of a buy back. They never HAVE to use it.

Too bad it is not an option to break out the card and have it examined by a panel of "disinterested" graders. But then you void the all important guarantee.

Shill bidding is a blessing compared to the things that go on behind the plastic. FBI has put their resources in the wrong place.

Amen to that.

[botn]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

Amen to that.

Funny thing Dan, is that for years you attacked me endlessly for my position as it was an anti PSA stance.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by botn

Funny thing Dan, is that for years you attacked me endlessly for my position as it was an anti PSA stance.

As I recall Greg, my issue was wanting to see some evidence made public - which I finally did.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Also I see Keith Olbermann takes his shots on this fiasco

http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/tag/mastro-auctions/

[barrysloate]

In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo...

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

Also I see Keith Olbermann takes his shots on this fiasco

http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/tag/mastro-auctions/

"Before and after somebody with the guts of a burglar and the skills of a circumcision specialist had trimmed the thing.

In its previous state the Wagner was an anomaly. It had very large white borders, and the card was thus perhaps 10% bigger than the average T-206. It looked like it had been hand-cut from a sheet of cards, and not done by a machine. Some of the corners were stubbed and worn from age. "

Interesting. So Olberman had all this information for all these years, but only now had the "guts of a burglar" to finally make his thoughts public?

Keith, you were scooped.

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So the grader, Bill Hughes, was lying (or was misquoted)? Interesting. Hall is probably taking a chance that whatever Bill Mastro has to say about it won't see the light of day.

Hall said Hughes told him that the quotes in the book and the newspaper articles were outright lies, and Hughes never said he knew the card was trimmed.

The plot thickens...

[Peter_Spaeth]

What a tangled web we weave....

[barrysloate]

I should have been a pair of ragged claws
Scuttling across the floors of silent seas.


As long as we're quoting poetry today.

[Peter_Spaeth]

In the room collectors come and go,
talking of Hall and Orlando.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So the grader, Bill Hughes, was lying (or was misquoted)? Interesting. Hall is probably taking a chance that whatever Bill Mastro has to say about it won't see the light of day.

My guess is that the light of day, formally, is about 6 months away. But what do I know?

[g_vezina_c55]

any news in the psa8 wagner case?

[cobblove]

"Its like the Mona Lisa of baseball cards. Thats why its worth so much."
Or because it looks like its Nm-Mt and not Ex.