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View Poll Results: Would having PSA 8 (Hand Cut) on the PSA 8 Wagner work?
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:12 PM
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I think Authentic...cut from sheet would be appropriate.
As long as the holder says AUTH without any numbers, I could go along. In the end, I guess my opinion doesn't matter because I will never be the owner of this card. Therefore, I will never be the seller either. Personally, if I had the financial means, I would rather buy one of the Ex specimens floating around which are 100% authentic and unaltered. I do have what may be a silly question though. Can PSA essentially recall this product and reholder themselves? When they sell you beef with e-coli in it, they recall it so I thought maybe PSA could step up to the plate and do the right thing. I suppose that would be an admission of some sort so I'm not holding my breath.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:17 PM
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I agree...I've never been a condition guy...a nice vg would tickle me pink!!!!!!
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:14 PM
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My interpretation of the Lanham Act as to its relevance is:

(a) Civil action
(1)Any person who, on or in connection with any goods or services, or any container for goods, uses in commerce any word, term, name, symbol, or device, or any combination thereof, or any false designation of origin, false or misleading description of fact, or false or misleading representation of fact, which—

(B)in commercial advertising or promotion, misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities, or geographic origin of his or her or another person’s goods, services, or commercial activities,

shall be liable in a civil action by any person who believes that he or she is or is likely to be damaged by such act.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1125

I could be wrong, but I don't see being involved in the actual direct sale or having ownership of the item in question matters based on what I've highlighted in bold print.
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:19 AM
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Dan, on its face this applies most naturally to suits by competitors -- who have been harmed because the defendant either misrepresents his own goods, or the competitor's goods. It seems a stretch to me to say PSA, in the context of a sale of the Wagner, by virtue of having once graded it, would be misrepresenting the seller's goods. Just my .02, which is probably worth .01.

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I would rather buy one of the Ex specimens floating around which are 100% authentic and unaltered.
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They are talking about buying....not selling.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:01 PM
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so are some collections
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youth is fleeting too!
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If the current PSA "8" is deemed "Auth" then I believe the highest rated Wagner will be PSA "5"
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LOL! And fast! Like the Chicago guy without the drama!
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If the Wagner was cut from a sheet of cards.....what happened to all the other cards on that sheet? Did he cut them out too and are they a floating around in PSA 8 holders?
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