Speaking of Mick...

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Leon

This is NOT a personal attack at all but I think you are wrong. Actually Travis, I kind of like you. You have great spirit. I have very first hand knowledge of many card doctors and thieves reading this board.

In my opinion, it's dangerously naive to think forgers -- at least the good ones -- aren't always looking to perfect their craft.

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence to show otherwise. After the Charlton Heston secretarial study was released on Autograph News Live, guess what? The forgers stopped copying the secretarial style and started copying the authentic style. Did that just happen by coincidence?

On CollectSpace a few posters spilled the beans on subtle traits they look for in Neil Armstrong autographs. Guess what? Within months we started seeing fakes with those same traits that never appeared before.

The forger who did all the Burczyk Mantle forgeries has altered his Mantle in the past few months. Did he do that for no reason or maybe because he was reading some "feedback" on his style here or elsewhere?

More than once Travis has espoused an attitude that forgers operate in an isolated silo scribbling lousy fakes that are all easily detected. This is simply not true.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

In my opinion, it's dangerously naive to think forgers -- at least the good ones -- aren't always looking to perfect their craft.

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence to show otherwise. After the Charlton Heston secretarial study was released on Autograph News Live, guess what? The forgers stopped copying the secretarial style and started copying the authentic style. Did that just happen by coincidence?

On CollectSpace a few posters spilled the beans on subtle traits they look for in Neil Armstrong autographs. Guess what? Within months we started seeing fakes with those same traits that never appeared before.

The forger who did all the Burczyk Mantle forgeries has altered his Mantle in the past few months. Did he do that for no reason or maybe because he was reading some "feedback" on his style here or elsewhere?

More than once Travis has espoused an attitude that forgers operate in an isolated silo scribbling lousy fakes that are all easily detected. This is simply not true.

Well written, Mr. Zipper and right on the money.

It was about a month ago when we noticed the source of the Burczyk certed Mantle forgeries changed his Mantle forgeries. The irony being, they are more horrific than the original Mantle forgeries he produced.

The change happened due to sites like Net54 and AML.

[Clark7781]

Chris,

Thank you for not taking any offense to my post. I have followed your opinions avidly for a long time. Your opinion carries weight with me, so I thank you for all that you have done for the hobby.

I truly love this community. Helping each other out when help is asked for. You are all true gentleman and gentlemwomen.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Clark7781

Chris,

Thank you for not taking any offense to my post. I have followed your opinions avidly for a long time. Your opinion carries weight with me, so I thank you for all that you have done for the hobby.

I truly love this community. Helping each other out when help is asked for. You are all true gentleman and gentlemwomen.

Clark, your post was not offensive at all. I appreciate the opportunity to reply to your comment.

When I first started doing my YouTube videos back in October 2008, I always made it clear that my videos and blogs were never meant to be educational. I simply wanted to expose the sellers of forgeries. I have never profited a dime from the hobby. I am not a dealer. Sellers of forgeries need to be exposed. It cannot be tolerated.