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Old 07-27-2012, 04:51 PM
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Good lord.

Mastro was charged differently because he's cooperating against Dougie.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:03 PM
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The state could feel free to file numerous charges that fall outside of federal jurisdiction against the principals of which they have evidence of wrondoing if they choose.

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Old 07-27-2012, 06:13 PM
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:49 PM
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:14 PM
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You are correct but normally the feds get to do what they want. The states do not have the money or the time. If the fed get fines the state shares at no cost.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:11 PM
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heres something to chew, and you can believe in me because i watch law and order a lot.


they only charged mastro with one count because he is pleading guilty. they dont need any more numerous "insurance" indictments against him since he agreed to plead guilty. the feds are probably interested in getting these guys a couple-few years in the pen so this one charge will accomplish that because it's 100 percent stuck and agreed to by mastro.

since allen is fighting the charges, they charged him with the entire book, as many charges as they could, so in case a couple fail, they will stand a good chance to prove at least one against him. and whether he gets found guilty of one charge or 14, its very probably he will see about the same time as mastro, a couple-few years as the convictions can be served concurrently if the judge sentences it that way, instead of consecutive. they just needed as many charges as they could, for "insurance" purposes. Mastro only needed one because it was for sure.

also, mastro's charge was different than the 14 for allen, they didnt want to charge mastro with one of the same ones they charged allen with, because they didnt want to give allen's lawyers a chance to point to mastro's guilty plea to help get allen off of the exact same charge by claiming mastro was behind it and here is mastro's guilty plea for that charge.

so that's another reason to charge mastro with only one charge, to make allens lawyers work for it and not point to a bunch of guilty pleas by mastro that could help allen get off of the hook for those charges if he were charged for the same violations. They probably picked one charge for mastro that was dissimilar as possible to any they charged allen with, to make it easier to pin allen on the ones he was charged with without allen pointing to mastro saying he was behind it and here is his guilty pleas.

mastro's charge was probably well thought out to show that it was done by him alone, a one-off, with allen not involved in it, and then have mastro say that the rest of them were allen's doing alone or at least with allen's full knowledge and consent. but we will see.

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Old 07-27-2012, 10:41 PM
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heres something to chew, and you can believe in me because i watch law and order a lot.


they only charged mastro with one count because he is pleading guilty. they dont need any more numerous "insurance" indictments against him since he agreed to plead guilty. the feds are probably interested in getting these guys a couple-few years in the pen so this one charge will accomplish that because it's 100 percent stuck and agreed to by mastro.

since allen is fighting the charges, they charged him with the entire book, as many charges as they could, so in case a couple fail, they will stand a good chance to prove at least one against him. and whether he gets found guilty of one charge or 14, its very probably he will see about the same time as mastro, a couple-few years as the convictions can be served concurrently if the judge sentences it that way, instead of consecutive. they just needed as many charges as they could, for "insurance" purposes. Mastro only needed one because it was for sure.

also, mastro's charge was different than the 14 for allen, they didnt want to charge mastro with one of the same ones they charged allen with, because they didnt want to give allen's lawyers a chance to point to mastro's guilty plea to help get allen off of the exact same charge by claiming mastro was behind it and here is mastro's guilty plea for that charge.

so that's another reason to charge mastro with only one charge, to make allens lawyers work for it and not point to a bunch of guilty pleas by mastro that could help allen get off of the hook for those charges if he were charged for the same violations. They probably picked one charge for mastro that was dissimilar as possible to any they charged allen with, to make it easier to pin allen on the ones he was charged with without allen pointing to mastro saying he was behind it and here is his guilty pleas.

mastro's charge was probably well thought out to show that it was done by him alone, a one-off, with allen not involved in it, and then have mastro say that the rest of them were allen's doing alone or at least with allen's full knowledge and consent. but we will see.
Travis. Between your job, your family, and net54... just how in the hell do you have time to watch Law & Order?
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heres something to chew, and you can believe in me because i watch law and order a lot.


they only charged mastro with one count because he is pleading guilty. they dont need any more numerous "insurance" indictments against him since he agreed to plead guilty. the feds are probably interested in getting these guys a couple-few years in the pen so this one charge will accomplish that because it's 100 percent stuck and agreed to by mastro.

since allen is fighting the charges, they charged him with the entire book, as many charges as they could, so in case a couple fail, they will stand a good chance to prove at least one against him. and whether he gets found guilty of one charge or 14, its very probably he will see about the same time as mastro, a couple-few years as the convictions can be served concurrently if the judge sentences it that way, instead of consecutive. they just needed as many charges as they could, for "insurance" purposes. Mastro only needed one because it was for sure.

also, mastro's charge was different than the 14 for allen, they didnt want to charge mastro with one of the same ones they charged allen with, because they didnt want to give allen's lawyers a chance to point to mastro's guilty plea to help get allen off of the exact same charge by claiming mastro was behind it and here is mastro's guilty plea for that charge.

so that's another reason to charge mastro with only one charge, to make allens lawyers work for it and not point to a bunch of guilty pleas by mastro that could help allen get off of the hook for those charges if he were charged for the same violations. They probably picked one charge for mastro that was dissimilar as possible to any they charged allen with, to make it easier to pin allen on the ones he was charged with without allen pointing to mastro saying he was behind it and here is his guilty pleas.

mastro's charge was probably well thought out to show that it was done by him alone, a one-off, with allen not involved in it, and then have mastro say that the rest of them were allen's doing alone or at least with allen's full knowledge and consent. but we will see.
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Travis -- don't quit your day job.
It's like he just started dreaming shi* up and writing it as he dreamed it. I never liked fiction that much. I can make crap up with the best of them why do I need to read other people's imaginations?
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allen wont get that much more time than mastro even though its 14 counts to one.

sorry i didnt run my opinion through the office of approved speech first.

a more appropriate response would be, that's interesting, i disagree with that opinion but we will see. instead it's all $%#%$#$ etc. why can't other people have a unique opinion without being attacked?

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[QUOTE=travrosty;1019515]heres something to chew, and you can believe in me because i watch law and order a lot."

Not to mention that you probably stayed in a Holiday Inn last night, Travis.

Sorry, but I couldn't resist the temptation to react to this quote.

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