Will the owner re-slab the Wagner?

[Matthew H]

Is it really possible that someone can drop 2.8 million dollars on on a piece of cardboard with out knowing the history of the item? I always assumed the owners knew what they bought.

[Matthew H]

I also think that the owner shouldn't be able to ask for compensation until the card is re-graded and sold. I don't think it's fair to guess what the card will sell for in an auth slab.

[whitehse]

I almost think this card has become more iconic in the hobby than it was before. Removing from it's current slab would make it nothing more than a "common" Wagner (if that is possible). Everyone knew it was trimmed card before now so removing it from this slab would just ruin the mistique of the card. If and when this card comes on the market I am sure the new price will reflect what is now common knowledge where before there were only whispers of its past.

[Runscott]

Perhaps now that the truth is going to be told 'officially', Mastro will produce a small box containing the Wagner trimmings. If he doesn't , someone will.

[g_vezina_c55]

i vote for a re-grade by SGC

[barrysloate]

I voted for the last choice so it wouldn't get shut out. I know that nothing will change. Idealism and capitalism do not intersect.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I voted for the last choice so it wouldn't get shut out. I know that nothing will change. Idealism and capitalism do not intersect.

I also voted for the last choice, only because it's a legal issue now.

Sincerely, Clayton

[FrankWakefield]

Voted no, the first choice.

The case is criminal, USA v. those defendants. The owner isn't a party. Realistically, the owner can't complain too much about what he bought, he chose to buy it.

Part of the 'charm' of that card is that it is in the first PSA holder... to break it out, something I normally advocate, would reset the card back toward what it was... and a significant component of that card's mystique is what that card has become, not what it was.

Gotta leave it in that plastic crap.

[timzcardz]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Perhaps now that the truth is going to be told 'officially', Mastro will produce a small box containing the Wagner trimmings. If he doesn't , someone will.

And will PSA slab them "AUTH TRIMMINGS"?

[SetBuilder]

No one knows for sure whether it was trimmed or not. What a joke!

Even if it was, who cares...its the best baseball card in the world, trimmed or not.

[christopher.herman]

SGC should slab the Wagner in the PSA slab and label it "AUTH".

[mrvster]

Chris,

LOL

That would be the ultimate scrap!!!

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by christopher.herman

SGC should slab the Wagner in the PSA slab and label it "AUTH".

that's ingenious, yes, they should take the wagner, still in the grade 8 psa slab, and slab the entire psa slabbed wagner in a bigger sgc slab, and mark it Authentic/trimmed. Nothing sweeter than that for SGC.

[bsuttonosu]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Perhaps now that the truth is going to be told 'officially', Mastro will produce a small box containing the Wagner trimmings. If he doesn't , someone will.

If Topps gets ahold of them they'll probably put them in a 2013 Topps relic card. I can just see a Wagner Cuts Relic being the big pull next year.

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Who bought the card?

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers

Who bought the card?

The owner of the Arizona Diamondbacks

[jefferyepayne]

I hope the value doesn't change at all and it completely wrecks the entire grading system. We need to get back to a time when a card's inherent aesthetics is considered in its price, not just the number on a slab.

jeff

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by whitehse

I almost think this card has become more iconic in the hobby than it was before. Removing from it's current slab would make it nothing more than a "common" Wagner (if that is possible). Everyone knew it was trimmed card before now so removing it from this slab would just ruin the mistique of the card. If and when this card comes on the market I am sure the new price will reflect what is now common knowledge where before there were only whispers of its past.

+1

All the best, guys,

Larry

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Matthew H

Is it really possible that someone can drop 2.8 million dollars on on a piece of cardboard with out knowing the history of the item?

NO.

[ctownboy]

IF Mastro is truly on the up and up NOW and IF he is going to tell the truth about the Wagner then MAYBE we will find out whether the Wagner was cut from a sheet. Furthermore, IF the card WAS cut from a sheet then MAYBE there is a photograph of that sheet.

If so, then MAYBE that photo will be released and we will have a better idea of how T206's were printed, as far as, how many cards were on a sheet and how the players were arranged.

David