Mastro indicted

[danc]

Fuddjcal is correct. And the Coach continues to survive? I hope it's Jorge Posada. Also, ignore David, Shelly. David has nothing better to do with his life than take cheap shots.

DanC

[David Atkatz]

Cheap shots, huh? Shelly Jaffe is nothing but a dishonest opportunist. He was never a collector, and only saw "the hobby" as an easy way to fleece the unsuspecting. The instant he thought the authorities were on to him (and I mean the instant--read "Operation Bullpen") he offered to sell out his fellows. As he himself related above, he did a bid in a Federal summer camp, and now he presents himself as a hobby white knight.

You can welcome him with open arms if you want to, Dan, but I ain't buyin' it.

Go back to buying and selling scrap metal, Shel.

[David Atkatz]

You don't seem to mind badmouthing another hobby lowlife, Dan. Perhaps Justin Priddy will wind up a guest of the Feds, do his bid, and discover religion. Then you can welcome him as the next hobby savior.

[danc]

In your world David, people don't change. The whole hobby is full of criminals that have never been caught or will never get caught. S--t, the whole hobby is full of them and you give them more credit than someone who admits to what he did was wrong, paid his dues in jail, doesn't sell autographs and works to better the hobby? Take a look at a man at his present, not his past if he has changed his way, than offer forgiveness.

Unless it's Sandusky. :-)

DanC

[David Atkatz]

"Works to better the hobby," my ass. He works to gain recognition for himself as something other than what he is.

I'll forgive him when he stays away from the hobby.

[danc]

I hate all these authenticators (most all of them) and what Shelly did doesn't compare to what some authenticators have done. He didn't forge or authenticate, but he witnessed and partook in the scheme and he did do his time.

It's a crime (anything that has to do with this hobby), but it's not murder. I think authenticators whose sole goal is to deceit a customer is as bad as the forger because he legitimizes the entire operation. There seems to be no penalty for anyone who opens up shop, proclaims themselves to be an expert and contributes to legitimizing a criminal operation.

DanC

[David Atkatz]

Got to agree with you there, Dan. (Except for the part about Shelly.)

[danc]

What do you do to better the hobby, David? Anything outside of living on the Net54? It's 2 A.M, why aren't you in bed? Afraid your going to miss a post to respond to?

DanC

[David Atkatz]

You sleep-writing, Dan?

[danc]

You know Shelly through his past and through his posts here. I know Shelly and if you want to believe what you want to believe, there is no way to sway you. Outside of the time we had fun on Prisco's expense, it's good to know we agree on something else.

DanC

[danc]

I have posted, before tonight, maybe 4 thread additions over the last six months. I mostly lurk every few days nowadays.

DanC

[BigJJ]

Originally Posted by danc

I hate all these authenticators (most all of them) ... There seems to be no penalty for anyone who opens up shop, proclaims themselves to be an expert and contributes to legitimizing a criminal operation.

DanC

Now we're talking Housewives of Orange County

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by BigJJ

Now we're talking Housewives of Orange County

Speaking of the Orange County Housewives, Let's not forget "Jesus Jugs", criminal seedy loser of a husband...that's right, it's dog faced, Jim Bellino. One of the original Donald Fryingpangianni wannabe's.

Thanks Shelly for your take. Sadly you are right. There will probably be no jail. That's why all the forgers, FDE's and authenticators thumb their noses at getting caught and do what they want with-out the fear of jail. They take the "who gives a shit If I get caught" attitude. Good for them.. Bad for the hobby.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Speaking of the Orange County Housewives, Let's not forget "Jesus Jugs", criminal seedy loser of a husband...that's right, it's dog faced, Jim Bellino. One of the original Donald Fryingpangianni wannabe's.

Thanks Shelly for your take. Sadly you are right. There will probably be no jail. That's why all the forgers, FDE's and authenticators thumb their noses at getting caught and do what they want with-out the fear of jail. They take the "who gives a shit If I get caught" attitude. Good for them.. Bad for the hobby.

I am told by people much smarter than myself that Doug, Mark and Bill will all do some time if found guilty. Almost Everything this person has told me has come true. He says it's only 100% though....so that does doesn't leave some wiggle room. I hope it all gets worked out and the hobby proceeds in a more positive manner.

And David, people can change even though you don't think so. I appreciate Shelly being on the board and let this be a warning that if you continually berate him for posting it won't be allowed for long. You can have your opinion of course, but as I have said many times, no one should be afraid that every single time they post they will be berated. We know how you feel already. Thanks for your understanding.