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Old 07-24-2012, 10:38 PM
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I don't collect bats and balls and other pieces of memorabilia, so please excuse my ignorance on this subject.

When buying a ::insert player name here::game used bat, how on Earth can you trust that it was used by that player? Could it have been merely touched by that player, then passed off as game used? Could it just be a similar model bat used by that player and passed off as his?

These are all questions I wonder about when I look at listings like these. I would never buy a "game used" anything unless I get a forensic image analysis that pinpoints the item to an actual game.
The most common way that they link a bat to a player is to match weight, length (sometimes), handle style (sometimes), model number or type, et alia to the player's known factory orders. Hillerich and Bradsby have shared much of their factory records from the early 20's onward with a few experts, and there is a handy book listing the orders placed by hall of famers in the 20th century. The thinking is that if a player took the time to order a bat, he must have planned to use it. If there are any signs of use, ball marks, spike marks, etc., then the bat is usually said to be "game used." But it's better to say that one of these bats is "so and so's pro model bat." It's still pretty cool to see one, if you ask me.

An even better way of tracing a bat to a pre-war player is side writing, the grease pencil notation on some H&B bats which indicates that the bat was sent by the player to the H&B factory so that it could be used as a model for the player's future bats. The thinking is that the player selected the bat himself to be the model for more of his bats and that the bat must therefore have been used in game situations.

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Old 07-25-2012, 12:50 AM
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At least in the old days, MEARS would put a serial numbed sticker on everything the examined. So a rejected bat or jersey could have a sticker.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:41 AM
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If you don't have the money to buy the Ruth bat you could bid on his other item, a piece of hardwood flooring stepped on by Micheal Jordan.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:09 AM
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I'm cracking up, that 'flooring' listing is really funny. ridiculous listings
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:25 PM
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If you don't have the money to buy the Ruth bat you could bid on his other item, a piece of hardwood flooring stepped on by Micheal Jordan.
If MJ would have spit on it and that was in the COA then maybe i'd be interested. I think i will hold out for a piece of ice that Wayne Gretzky skated on.
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:45 PM
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If MJ would have spit on it and that was in the COA then maybe i'd be interested. I think i will hold out for a piece of ice that Wayne Gretzky skated on.
No game used Gretzky ice yet but a piece of hockey net twine available.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:05 PM
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I have some grass from the Polo Grounds that my family has kept alive for 55 years, with COA from a 2,600th generation ant living in it.


(I do not in fact have such grass, please do not inquire)

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There are 2 bids on this bat and it is at $1600 with a little over a day left. This one is going to hurt a bit.
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