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Old 07-19-2012, 05:33 AM
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My biggest concern is that "Rube" does not connect with "Marquard" on this ball. Virtually every exemplar that I have seen of him appears to read Rubellarquard from the late 1940's to his death date. His later sigs that I have studied (including those with his preferred black Flair pen) always seemed to be penned this way.

It's just my opinion, but I would stay away from this example personally.
If you would like to see exemplars of what I am talking about, PLMK. I've got several to look at.

I hope this helps.
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My biggest concern is that "Rube" does not connect with "Marquard" on this ball. Virtually every exemplar that I have seen of him appears to read Rubellarquard from the late 1940's to his death date. His later sigs that I have studied (including those with his preferred black Flair pen) always seemed to be penned this way.

It's just my opinion, but I would stay away from this example personally.
If you would like to see exemplars of what I am talking about, PLMK. I've got several to look at.

I hope this helps.
All in respect, I have seen most like exactly how you described, but I have as well seen a TON with the gap. Here's an example
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The main "tell" also, is how he finishes his signature. Please post a picture on how he finishes his signature as this photo is cut off.
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The main "tell" also, is how he finishes his signature. Please post a picture on how he finishes his signature as this photo is cut off.
I would agree with you as well. FWIW, the backward "swoosh" on the end of the "d" in Marquard would possibly sway my opinion after seeing your exemplar, HOF Rookies...
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Look at the "R" in Rube on the ball it is done with two strokes of the pen.
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Look at the "R" in Rube on the ball it is done with two strokes of the pen.
We need to get Paul's pic of his Marquard, it shows that as well.
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Here we go:

Paul's Marquard Cracker Jack
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Look at the "R" in Rube on the ball it is done with two strokes of the pen.
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I think what Jim is trying to say with this post is that Rube's later era autographs all demonstrated a singular stroke, not two separate strokes as in the "R" on the ball in question.

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What's your take on the ball? Would you feel comfortable with it, or would you pass on it like I previously stated that I would do? I'm just curious...
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I think what Jim is trying to say with this post is that Rube's later era autographs all demonstrated a singular stroke, not two separate strokes as in the "R" on the ball in question.

Jim,
What's your take on the ball? Would you feel comfortable with it, or would you pass on it like I previously stated that I would do? I'm just curious...
Thanks Scott, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification, as you can see, I'm no expert like Jim and everyone else

After that, what era is the ball? Now I may be leaning towards no...
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I would agree with you as well. FWIW, the backward "swoosh" on the end of the "d" in Marquard would possibly sway my opinion after seeing your exemplar, HOF Rookies...
+1, exactly, otherwise, I would purchase this ball if it were reasonable
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How about this example?

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How about this example?

Wow, that one is tough. I'm not an expert, but I don't like it at all. Seems too quickly paced for his signings habits, especially with a later in life example like this one I believe. What year is that from. And not a fan of the "d" how it's finished. But then again, that's my opinion, I'm no expert.
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