How many T206 Wagner's exist?

[Orioles1954]

Let's put it this way....it's by far the most common Wagner tobacco card.

[travrosty]

there was one slabbed by beckett and one by gai but i think the gai one has been reslabbed by someone else now. there are at least 65 known wagners, maybe even a few more that are known and documented, so the real numbers is probably closer to 75 or so. its as good as guess as anyone can come up with as not all of them are slabbed or accounted for. a few are lying low.

if i am way off let me know.

[big80s]

Thanks for the reply, guys. It's amazing to think about a card like that remaining raw. I'd be curious to know if there are any high grade examples yet to be graded.

[barrysloate]

Yes, there are still high end Wagners out there that haven't been graded. A lot of the old time collectors are not big fans of TPG.

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by big80s

Thanks for the reply, guys. It's amazing to think about a card like that remaining raw. I'd be curious to know if there are any high grade examples yet to be graded.

Depends on what you mean by "high grade", but there are definitely a few nice raw ones out there.

Think of it a different way. The card themselves have been around for over 100 years, collectors have been around for nearly the same amount of time, and professional grading has only been around for 10-15 years. Anyone who had a Wagner for 20+ years may not feel the need to get the card graded to remain in their personal collection.

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[travrosty]

sorry for the double post.

the burdick wagner at the Metropolitan is in pretty good shape, it is pasted on a sheet, so they don't know how much back damage there would be if they took it off. they did comment, however, that the paste is water soluble and it might be possible to dissolve it and take the card off the sheet with minimal damage. so that wagner is in fairly good shape and unslabbed and ungraded.