T206 Fred Tenney Price Spike.

[z28jd]

Here is a Tenney ghost for ya guys! Sorry about the other fuzzy cards, they're just along for the ride from an old scan

[mrvster]

Great cards JOHNNY

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by z28jd

Here is a Tenney ghost for ya guys! Sorry about the other fuzzy cards, they're just along for the ride from an old scan

Are there people who call these examples ghost images?

To me those are just bad registration flaws - and ones that seriously negatively affect value. I understood ghost images to be from a different card (could be the same player) but basically caused by wet transfers.



Cheers,
Blair

[mrvster]

Hey Blair.....

Johnny's cards are , you are right, either "color" shifts or "drunken registers"....stahl and wagner are more "drunken registers", the bradley is a "color shift".....BUT/where as the teney has a "slight ghost"(hairline to the right of the profile.......Johnny techically has a "SLIGHT TENNEY GHOST"

drunken registers are more common than true ghosts....



some definitions:



The Tenney is also a color shift, but if you look at the hairline/profile projecting to the right= it also has a "slight ghost image"...............not as pronounced as most "ghost images", but one nonetheless.....


ghost images usually reflect the player's profile, either shown the subject on the existing card, or the player next to be printed either to the left or right of the subject matter......can either BE that player or ANOTHER player....


The real cool ghosts, the "dramatic ones" are totally diferent players super imposed (THESE ARE USUALLY SCRAP BTW) and extremely rare, and EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE!!(jamie blundel's fergie/my bender/lake....rob's downey) ect....they are the pinnacle of "ghosts" those if you want to buy, u might have to finance those!!!


In other words:

there are different "LEVELS" or severities of a t206......usually classified on the level of severe/ slight.....some slight "ghosts" some real dramatic.........hence the price varies greatly

some in magenta, some in black ink, some are very close to the "drunken " registers.....

SUMMATION:
Tenney has a "slight ghosted tenney player image" seen to the right of the players head.....and the card displays a slight color shift also


I hope this didn't add to the confusion

Peace

Johnny

[wazoo]

Hey Johnny, thank you for the extra information. I love hearing and learning more about ghost images.

[mrvster]

I am so glad you joined the board.....you gave me hope that a new generation will appreciate my t206 error collection.......my collection will be up for view in some time, and i can't wait for collectors to see them....alot of my friends have already, but i want others to view and enjoy them as well....i think you pick a great hobby!!!THE BEST SET T206 to collect....your interest really made my theory of younger collectors getting into the set, and appreciating some of the true rarities of this mysterious set....since 1998 i have been collecting the freak t206....jamie b and chris b have joined my "ERROR CRUSADE" and have learned what i have.....they appreciate them now, others like mike sarno, dan mckee, jim rivera, tim cathey, scott forrest , Leon luckey, wonka, clayton, there are so many cool collectors it's unreal all have been bitten by the freak bug a little also...we all pretty much get along as youll see and we bicker a little here and there but only in good taste...good luck!!!!

Keep collecting, you picked a super hobby and enjoy the hunting of these little gems!!


WELCOME

Peace

Johnny

[mrvster]

Oh....btw.....the definitions and some thoughts are cumulated from the years from other collectors like ADAm(exhibitman-drunken registers) and other freak collectors who are all part of the thought process here.....especially the vets

[wazoo]

I am very happy to hear that, I really appreciate the old, unique stuff. I enjoy finding the error cards what make the set even more interesting. Back then they did not have the best quality control, nowadays, it's the complete opposite. Cards with two names, cards with no names, extreme miscuts, ghost images, etc., I love it all. In a sense I have started my own "Error Crusade" by purchasing cards like listed above. Although some say these mistakes take away from the value, I feel the complete opposite. These mistakes really add to the value if anything, in my opinion. I cannot wait to see the display of your collection, and I would enjoy sharing my cards with you as well. Best regards.
~Wazoo

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by mrvster

Hey Blair.....

Johnny's cards are , you are right, either "color" shifts or "drunken registers"....stahl and wagner are more "drunken registers", the bradley is a "color shift".....BUT/where as the teney has a "slight ghost"(hairline to the right of the profile.......Johnny techically has a "SLIGHT TENNEY GHOST"

drunken registers are more common than true ghosts....



some definitions:



The Tenney is also a color shift, but if you look at the hairline/profile projecting to the right= it also has a "slight ghost image"...............not as pronounced as most "ghost images", but one nonetheless.....


ghost images usually reflect the player's profile, either shown the subject on the existing card, or the player next to be printed either to the left or right of the subject matter......can either BE that player or ANOTHER player....


The real cool ghosts, the "dramatic ones" are totally diferent players super imposed (THESE ARE USUALLY SCRAP BTW) and extremely rare, and EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE!!(jamie blundel's fergie/my bender/lake....rob's downey) ect....they are the pinnacle of "ghosts" those if you want to buy, u might have to finance those!!!


In other words:

there are different "LEVELS" or severities of a t206......usually classified on the level of severe/ slight.....some slight "ghosts" some real dramatic.........hence the price varies greatly

some in magenta, some in black ink, some are very close to the "drunken " registers.....

SUMMATION:
Tenney has a "slight ghosted tenney player image" seen to the right of the players head.....and the card displays a slight color shift also


I hope this didn't add to the confusion

Peace

Johnny

Thanks for this post, Johnny - I learned a lot from it!

Cheers,
Blair

[mrvster]

Anytime!! I love your input Blair

[wazoo]

Such a wonderful discussion, thank you all once again.

[mrvster]

keep your great posts coming!!especially on t206 oddities/rarities