When top condition is not a good thing?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Well I could be wrong... but I kind a remember Alan Hager dumping tons of those square Colgans onto the market in high-grade condition way back when?

Leon maybe you weren't in the hobby back then? Or maybe they were re-holdered as altered?

Well, I have been addicted for the last 17 yrs, and on the internet and scouring almost that whole time, and haven't seen any, that's all I know. I probably got back in the hobby (after my kid days) right after his find. I watch for those Square Colgan's closely. Show me 3 above a 5? I can show you a ton of the round ones that are very high grade though. Maybe I am wrong but I would like to see it and will gladly say "yeap, I was wrong"....won't be the first or last time.

[Jaybird]

Here's one



I remember reading an old post where Jon Canfield talked about buying a bunch of Colgan Squares from an old Hager auction back in the 90's

Maybe he can help.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Jaybird

Here's one

Thanks. I said 3. You failed.

BTW, I could easily show 40 of the round ones that are above a 5. I sort of thought this is what Peter was thinking....but I guess not.

[ullmandds]

Guys...I remember when Hager put out his book...and burst onto the card scene...he kinda introduced these square colgans to the hobby...as "proofs"...and I remember a fair # of high grade ones were accugrade entombed.

I don't follow or care much about any colgans issue...just never cared for them. I would presume there are a lot more high grade roundies because there are a much larger # of roundies compared to squares.

I'm just trying to make a point that when a lot of high grade cards of a given issue seem surface....canting the overall population of an issue to a dramatically higher grade...they become less desirable?!

I don't think this will be the case so much w/e98 as the demand is so high?!

I just think in the future these high grade e98's will be popping up on a regular basis...and will become common...and pedestrian...and less desirable!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Guys...I remember when Hager put out his book...and burst onto the card scene...he kinda introduced these square colgans to the hobby...as "proofs"...and I remember a fair # of high grade ones were accugrade entombed.

I don't follow or care much about any colgans issue...just never cared for them. I would presume there are a lot more high grade roundies because there are a much larger # of roundies compared to squares.

I'm just trying to make a point that when a lot of high grade cards of a given issue seem surface....canting the overall population of an issue to a dramatically higher grade...they become less desirable?!

I don't think this will be the case so much w/e98 as the demand is so high?!

I just think in the future these high grade e98's will be popping up on a regular basis...and will become common...and pedestrian...and less desirable!

I wonder if the Accugrade ones got busted out and were put into lower grade holders from other companies? But that wasn't the main point of your thread.

As I stated in another thread, this grouping seems sort of like the E92 Nadja St.Louis player cards but on a larger scale. Those E92s are always being sold and they command much less than most other caramel cards in the same grade. We have all seen them...and many of us own one or some.

[ullmandds]

It is definitely kind of similar to the E 92 situation... but very different in that there are so many different cards in such high numbers.

[Jaybird]

Certainly something to be said for rarity or perceived rarity. I think we all cherish those things in our collection that there are just one of or a few of. The fact that a bunch of high grade E98s are out there can't help prices. But, they are great cards and the demand should be pretty high for them. I expect they will get sucked up pretty darn quick.

[Wite3]

I am with Leon on this one...not only are the square Colgans hard to find in high condition but many are off center or have back damage. I own four different ones and all four have damage from being glued into an album at one point. Only seen a handful of higher end ones.

As to the OP's assertion of when top end is no good...in my opinion...always! I only collect low end.

Joshua