Type II photos?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

Lance,

Fogel/Yee is by far the best resource that is out there IMO so you definitely started in the right place. I also believe that is pre-dates all the other books mentioned. It was/is the groundbreaking book in baseball photography.

That's incorrect - David (Cycleback) was publishing books about photography while Henry was still cutting his ..... teeth

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Runscott

That's incorrect - David (Cycleback) was publishing books about photography while Henry was still cutting his ..... teeth

It is clear that you have a personal isssue with Henry. This, coupled with the fact you have not even opened his book makes your opinion on this matter a wee bit jaded.. but ok

[ibuysportsephemera]

The first publication on Sports Photography that I was ever aware of was David's (Cycleback). Not stating one way or another who was first...both are great and a must for the collector of photographs.

Jeff

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

The first publication on Sports Photography that I was ever aware of was David's (Cycleback). Not stating one way or another who was first...both are great and a must for the collector of photographs.

Jeff

Agreed in that anything one can read and learn from is good. Content is most important to me in a read as I assess its value.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

It is clear that you have a personal isssue with Henry. This, coupled with the fact you have not even opened his book makes your opinion on this matter a wee bit jaded.. but ok

My opinion that David's books came out before Henry's? Your logic is a bit flawed, Ben, but carry on.

edited to add: it's not an opinion, it's a fact

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Runscott

My opinion that David's books came out before Henry's? Your logic is a bit flawed, Ben, but carry on.

edited to add: it's not an opinion, it's a fact

Runscott.. look at the content... look at the different additions as it relates to the time frame of when "a portrait of baseball photography" came out. That is all I am going to say.. people can come to their own conclusions based on facts. You clearly have underlying issues with Henry. I am not going to degrade what David has done as it does take work to put a book together. I am sorry that I added to any negative comparison. I suggest you open a copy of "a portrait of baseball photography" as you would undoubtedly learn a lot.

ps: what does "cutting his...teeth " mean?

David, I have asked you before if you authenticate for Beckett with no response. Do you? If not, who does?

[drc]

Sorry, I don't read all posts, I'm not avoiding answering questions.

I don't authenticate at Beckett and never did. I was an advisor before, which meant I answered their pressing question and gave opinions on the occasional hard photo they emailed me. Last I knew Andy Broome was the head photograph guy. He also is their Pre-War baseball card specialist. All questions sent to me came through Mark Anderson who is the director of grading. Mark himself seems to be knowledgeable about photos, and I would guess he is in on the photo grading.

I originally went down to Dallas and gave a seminar or identifying photographs to the graders. They also had me write a series of photo articles for one of the magazines. Then retained me for a while to answer questions long distance.

But, no, I've never physically handled a photograph for Beckett.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by drc

Sorry, I don't read all posts, I'm not avoiding answering questions.

I don't authenticate at Beckett and never did. I was an advisor before, which meant I answered their pressing question and gave opinions on the occasional hard photo they emailed me. Last I knew Andy Broome was the head photograph guy. He also is their Pre-War baseball card specialist. All questions sent to me came through Mark Anderson who is the director of grading. Mark himself seems to be knowledgeable about photos, and I would guess he is in on the photo grading.

I originally went down to Dallas and gave a seminar or identifying photographs to the graders. They also had me write a series of photo articles for one of the magazines. Then retained me for a while to answer questions long distance.

But, no, I've never physically handled a photograph for Beckett.

David, thank you for your response. I am actually quite relieved that you are not the authenticator as their classifications are inconsistent at best. Many of the authenticated examples are so horrendously inaccurate that it appears it is done intentionally. I find it interesting that they have adopted YEE/FOGEL'S Classification system yet do not follow it.

[repsher]

Thanks for mentioning David's book. I didn't know it was available and it's now sitting on my Ipad. The Yee/Fogel book still eludes me...For a decent price anyway.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

Runscott.. look at the content... look at the different additions as it relates to the time frame of when "a portrait of baseball photography" came out. That is all I am going to say.. people can come to their own conclusions based on facts. You clearly have underlying issues with Henry. I am not going to degrade what David has done as it does take work to put a book together. I am sorry that I added to any negative comparison. I suggest you open a copy of "a portrait of baseball photography" as you would undoubtedly learn a lot.

I was reading David's books on photography long before Henry wrote a book. David has written many books over the years - they were not all published before Henry wrote his, but some of them were. I'm sure Henry learned quite a bit from David and his publications. I'm even more certain that Henry learned a lot by reading this forum and its predecessors.

I don't think you added any negative comparisons - you were just supporting Henry.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I was reading David's books on photography long before Henry wrote a book. David has written many books over the years - they were not all published before Henry wrote his, but some of them were. I'm sure Henry learned quite a bit from David and his publications. I'm even more certain that Henry learned a lot by reading this forum and its predecessors.

I don't think you added any negative comparisons - you were just supporting Henry.

Actually, I am quite confident that these books had absolutely no bearing on "A Portrait of Baseball Photography".