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Old 07-06-2012, 09:46 AM
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People answer this type of questions based on their own proclivity to slab or not to. The raw card guys always say most are raw, and the collectors who have all their cards slabbed always say a high percentage are slabbed. I don't even have to read their responses- I know what it will be just by who they are.

Therefore, what is the point of these informal surveys?

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Old 07-06-2012, 10:38 AM
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People answer this type of questions based on their own proclivity to slab or not to. The raw card guys always say most are raw, and the collectors who have all their cards slabbed always say a high percentage are slabbed. I don't even have to read their responses- I know what it will be just by who they are.
In my personal collection, 80% of my (approx. 600) T206s are raw and yet my answer was that 80% of high grade T206s are probably already slabbed.
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:18 AM
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And yet Jim I knew that both you and Frank would answer the opposite, without even reading your posts. My point is I have no idea which one of you is right, as I don't study this. But what I know for certain is one of you is wrong, since it can't be mostly raw and mostly graded at the same time.

So what is the point of these surveys? Nobody studies the percentage of graded backs, they just guess at it. Is that serving the OP, and even if he got the correct answer does it make a difference?
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:30 AM
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Barry,
Ok, good point. But in case you are wondering who is right; it is me.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:03 PM
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Ok, good point. But in case you are wondering who is right; it is me.
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Well of course.

Larry- I didn't express myself clearly. Of course if somebody knew the answer with near precision that could be useful information. But if everybody is guessing, and the answers are all over the board, that is not going to help you at all.

If I ask who won the Yankee game, and five people say the Yankees, and the other five say, No it was the Red Sox....I might just as well not asked the question.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:15 PM
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Well of course.

Larry- I didn't express myself clearly. Of course if somebody knew the answer with near precision that could be useful information. But if everybody is guessing, and the answers are all over the board, that is not going to help you at all.

If I ask who won the Yankee game, and five people say the Yankees, and the other five say, No it was the Red Sox....I might just as well not asked the question.
If I asked 10 people I knew who won the Yankees game... I would know who to believe out of the 10. :-)

That's what I seeking here... who I can believe... who the T206 expert is on this board. Once I determine that I can make more informed decisions. Who knows, maybe one day I'll be able to make my own decisions. ;-)
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:57 AM
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Is that serving the OP, and even if he got the correct answer does it make a difference?
Of course it makes a difference. Supply and demand dictates value. If 90% of the PSA 6 and above are slabbed... and there are 45 slabbed, I know there are only 5 raw. If there are 100 collectors for PSA 6 and above, the card is a good value. On the other hand, if only 10% are slabbed... and there are 45 slabbed, I know there are 405 raw. If there are 100 collectors for PSA 6 and above, the card is a poor value.

I know you can only provide your opinion. A collector who has collected for years/decades and attends shows and tracks auctions is certainly more informed than I am... and I value their opinion.
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