1966 or 68 Deckle Proofs

[Leon]

a quick search on ebay shows many proofs in the 20-100 range. I don't know if there is anything special about the one posted..

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...0deckle&_sop=3





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[nolemmings]

These appear to be from a set that was never issued, unlike the '69 and '74 deckles. Although the Yaz image is the same as found in the '69 deckle set, the other players are not so found, and the presence of Alomar in a Milwaukee Braves uniform when he last played there in 1966 is perhaps why seller is selling it as a 1966 set. It may be from 1965 as Woodeshick was traded from Houston to St. Louis during that season and is shown wearing an airbrushed cap. Seems to me that by '66 the Houston team was the Astros and the Braves were in Atlanta, such that ye olde airbrush would have hit the Alomar and Adlesh cards too if '66 was the year of production. The SGC date of '68 is likely wrong, not only for the above reasons but because Woodeshick was done in 1967, released in October by the Cardinals. Puzzling is the Bob Johnson Rochester Red Wings card, as he last played there in 1961.

Neat cards in any event.

Edited to add that Adlesh's hat is airbrushed too, although Alomar's Milwaukee hat is not. Adlesh is wearing an Astros uniform, meaning the photo is post-1964.

[ALR-bishop]

There are 3 different 1968 Deckle proof sheets of the same 9 players. Yaz is the only one to appear in the 69 set. The sheets differ some in player placement but the main difference is the color of the autos...red, blue and black. Blue is apparently the scacest. I have the 3 sheets, here are 2. In full sheet form they are tough to find. I am not a graded card guy, but if this Yaz is in the PSA master registry set, it would be a fairly tough one. If it is in the master list and the list includes all 3 color autos, that would really be tough

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[ALR-bishop]

[David W]

Al,

Those sheets are interesting in that the players are in different locations on the sheet, albeit in the same row.

Also, the selection of a minor league player is unusual.

Thanks for the pix.

[nolemmings]

I would still like to know how those are dated to 1968, given that a couple of players had changed teams before then and one was essentially out of baseball.

[ALR-bishop]

I have no personal knowledge, that is just the way they are listed in the Standard Catalog. Maybe Bob Lemke has more info. I assume because they were apparently never issued, there are only 9, they come on 3 different sheets, and it would not make sense they came out after the 69 set, although maybe they were also produced in 69.

As far as uniforms and playing status, Topps screwed those up many a time and often used pictures several years old that they then airbrushed. The 1969 main set itself, in the first several series, is full of such examples, apparently due to both expansion and the head to head between Topps and Marvin Miller over a new license agreement for future player photos. The later series in that set do have new photos, apparently after an agreement was reached with Miller.

My favorite though is the 1973 set of 1953 Reprints in which 3 of only 8 players are misidentified